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re: Art Briles took BAYLOR to a bowl game

Posted on 1/7/11 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 3:56 pm to
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Kolb wasn't highly recruited at all.


Not by Texas or USC or anything, but he was a decent recruit for Houston and had an offer from Oklahoma State.

I have nothing to back up that theory with, but Briles went from high school coach, to RB coach with Texas Tech and two years later he is the head coach for Houston and here comes two of Houston's biggest recruits from Briles' former coaching gig. (They also got a three star DT from the same high school) It happens all the time. Look at Janzen Jackson's dad, Gus Malzhan and Frank Wilson. High school coaches who get a job somewhere and oh wow, their big recruit follows them.

Also, that is the same high school that Jevan Snead came from.
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:29 pm to
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had an offer from Oklahoma State



And that's it. A school isn't going to hire a coach because he brings along a guy with one other scholly offer. That's laughable.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:35 pm to
I'd prefer Briles over Pelini. Having said that, I like the following:

1. Del Rio
2. Mullen
3. Sarkisian
4. Mike Singletary
5. Marrone

We'd find a coach by the time we made it to #5 on my list. I'd be happy with any of the above.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:39 pm to
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A school isn't going to hire a coach because he brings along a guy with one other scholly offer.


As I said, Houston signed four three star guys that year (their biggest recruits) and two of them were from Stevensville High where Briles coached. And they got two offensive lineman from there as well. Not saying it's the only reason, but I bet it didn't hurt.

And Griffin was a very highly rated QB who followed Briles from Houston to Baylor. I'm sure that didn't hurt either. And it happens all the time. Do you think Ole Miss hired David Cutcliff the same year Eli Manning was coming out of high school and fired him after he left because he was the greatest coach in the world? No. It was because he was a good coach and was going to pretty much lock up a stud recruit.

Not saying it's the only reason these guys get hired at the lower level schools, but if you are bringing in a recruit or recruiting pipeline, it doesn't hurt.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:41 pm to
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Look at Baylors season last year after Griffin was injured.



That's kind of what I was saying.


Yeah, his coaching seems contingent on having a great QB.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:50 pm to
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Yeah, his coaching seems contingent on having a great QB.


...but more often than not, he has a great QB.
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:51 pm to
I've followed UH. The coach before Briles recruited well but didn't win. Briles was brought in for his offensive coaching prowess -- his system resembled what UH had during the Run 'N' Shoot years -- and not his ability to bring in two three star players with one extra scholly offer each (coincidentally, the DT's only offer came from Tech). Houston had brought in a ton of three-star caliber guys in addition to them.


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Do you think Ole Miss hired David Cutcliff the same year Eli Manning was coming out of high school and fired him after he left because he was the greatest coach in the world?



This is a laughable comparison. Like I said, Kolb wasn't a highly sought-after player. Nobody was excited at UH when Kolb committed. You're completely pulling this out of your arse.
This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 4:55 pm
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:52 pm to
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Yeah, his coaching seems contingent on having a great QB.



He knows how to coach QBs.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:55 pm to
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Yeah, his coaching seems contingent on having a great QB.


...but more often than not, he has a great QB.


Kind of makes you think that he can coach QBs up pretty well.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 4:58 pm to
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Kind of makes you think that he can coach QBs up pretty well.



QB coach, possible OC but not as a HC IMO. Too large of a risk.
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:45 pm to
Phil Bennett getting back together with some coaches. One is a former LSU player and GA..

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