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Arkansas working their way down the ACC- Grobe

Posted on 12/5/07 at 6:50 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45439 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 6:50 pm
Butch Davis- No thanks
Tommy Bowden- No thanks
Jimbo Fischer- No thanks

They better pray Grobe accepts, or they are going to have to wait until Duke hires one to offer him the job.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/5/07 at 6:53 pm to
We give coaches pay raises.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45439 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 6:59 pm to
hey hog, what do you think your record will be over the next 3 years against Ole Miss?
Posted by Geauxst
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2003
486 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:02 pm to
I think Grobe is a quality coach. He would be a good hire for the Hogs. If I was a Hog fan, I would much happier with Grobe than Tommy Bowden or Jimbo Fisher.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:04 pm to
not sure..Could be a toss up the next 2 years.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:04 pm to
hey hog, what do you think your record will be over the next 3 years against Ole Miss?

Not good. Coach O left Ole Miss in a better position than "The Coach who was Fired" left Arkansas.

In fact, The Coach Who was Fired walked into more talent/ a better team in 1998, than the next Arkansas will inherit this upcoming season.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

I think Grobe is a quality coach. He would be a good hire for the Hogs. If I was a Hog fan, I would much happier with Grobe than Tommy Bowden or Jimbo Fisher.


Agreed. I did not see any 10 win seasons on Bowden's record, and that is in the ACC.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45439 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:10 pm to
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Not good. Coach O left Ole Miss in a better position than "The Coach who was Fired" left Arkansas


That is what I was thinking. Ole Miss has had some good recruiting over the past two years, and it seems that Arkansas' last two classes were down. Nutt always seemed to get more out of his talent then he should.

So if your record against Ole Miss is "not good" is Arkansas looking at the cellar in the West the next few years- until the next coach can get the "process" going?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:19 pm to
Its going to be tough the next few years for whoever the coach is.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:26 pm to
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That is what I was thinking. Ole Miss has had some good recruiting over the past two years, and it seems that Arkansas' last two classes were down. Nutt always seemed to get more out of his talent then he should.

So if your record against Ole Miss is "not good" is Arkansas looking at the cellar in the West the next few years- until the next coach can get the "process" going?


Which is more of a reflection of "The Coach who was Fired" more than anyone else.

Remember there have been some talented players that were in essence ran off from the program by "The Coach who was Fired" and the MSM (Murray State Mafia).

It will catch up at Ole Miss too.

Another point being, whose fault is it if the Head Coach has to use less talent? Most would agree the Head Coach is responsible for getting the players he needs to succeed.
This post was edited on 12/5/07 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Tigerark
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2003
10409 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 7:35 pm to
Problem is that Arkansas will not get much better talent than it is currently getting. I just don't see why Arkansas fans don't understand this.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:52 pm to
Using scout.com ratings, Ole Miss & Ark recruiting has been exactly the same the past 5 years.

I would say that makes Ole Miss quite the underachiever. Of course the Ole Miss ratings include Mr. Powe every year.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:56 pm to
scout doesn't evaluate prospects good. Scout had deangelo williams as a 1star.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105262 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 9:11 pm to
Scout's big problem is usually that there's bias thrown into the rating depending on what schools they're interested in.


If DeAngelo Williams had said he was interested in USC, LSU, and Notre Dame instead of Memphis and two other non-BCS programs, I'm sure he'd have been bumped up to a 2 or 3 at the least.

Going to a historically weak Memphis program got him labeled as a subpar recruit, IMHO.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 9:17 pm to
I think rivals evaluates better then scout but thats imo. Felix Jones was a 3 star and mcfadden was a 4 star.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45439 posts
Posted on 12/5/07 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Using scout.com ratings, Ole Miss & Ark recruiting has been exactly the same the past 5 years


Aside from using Scout, remember that Arkansas biggest recruits Mustain & Williams from two years ago transfered.

2006- w/ Mustain 5 star & Williams 4 star still was only at 26. Without them 35-40?

2007 Last years class wasn't in the top 30(rivals), 9th in the SEC
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