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Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:32 am to
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:32 am to
Yeah, the green bone saga by Fonda Lee. Asian fantasy version of the Godfather. Or maybe Peaky Blinders would be a better comparison.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 11:39 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:38 am to
Ok your edit / tagline definitely made me want to read those now.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:32 am to
Going through Republic of Thieves now. Is there any real news on when Book 4 of Gentleman Bastards is going to release? I read something that the first draft had been submitted.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:16 pm to
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Is there any real news on when Book 4 of Gentleman Bastards is going to release?


Lynch is almost in the same category with Rothfuss and Martin in terms of BS info on where the books and writing process are.

I'd ignore anything until you see an actual publication date with him. There was a huge gap between when he was saying the early drafts were done and Republic of Thieves actually came out back when it came out.
Posted by memphis tiger
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:09 pm to
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Going through Republic of Thieves now. Is there any real news on when Book 4 of Gentleman Bastards is going to release? I read something that the first draft had been submitted.



I’ve about given up on the Gentleman Bastards ever being a complete series.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:53 am to
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Going through Republic of Thieves now. Is there any real news on when Book 4 of Gentleman Bastards is going to release? I read something that the first draft had been submitted.


I’ve about given up on the Gentleman Bastards ever being a complete series.



I kind of moved on - absolutely loved the first 2, really didn't care for Republic of Thieves. The whole interlude dual story thing sort of became stale for me in that one as well.

I believe the rest of the series are supposed to really start his actual "story" or the war he needed to set up or whatever so I probably won't even pick up Book 4 when / if it is released until he is closer to finishing up the series.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:56 am to
Just came across Book of the New Sun series by Gene Wolf - anyone read these? Looks pretty intriguing and has solid reviews on goodreads.
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:47 pm to
Well, I started Malazan, Gardens of the Moon. It is really intriguing. Not an easy read though. Is Ganoes Paran kind of the books main protagonist?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 1:04 pm to
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Well, I started Malazan, Gardens of the Moon. It is really intriguing. Not an easy read though. Is Ganoes Paran kind of the books main protagonist?



GotM - yes, he is one of the main ones. Most of the books tend to split off in a few different protagonist arcs that usually converge in some way by the end. The books and the series have tons of protagonists though, it is not an easy read but definitely my favorite series.

Book 1 starts one and its follow-up book is really Book 3. Book 2 starts another arc and is almost completely different cast of characters than Book 1. Book 5 introduces the final sort of main arc and they all combine and merge in really awesome ways though as you move along the series.

There is a podcast I recommend for those interested called Ten Very Big Books on spotify. It has one host who has read it before and two people who have never read it and they just sort of discuss what happens section by section after reading without any forward looking spoilers (except in one spoiler filled wrap up episode that is marked).

It is very helpful in keeping characters straight and reminding you of some minor detail 3 chapters ago that may be important in the coming pages. I'm about to start Book 3 on my second re-read of the series and have been listening along with the podcast this time and really enjoying it.

The hosts are kind of funny IMO and the author joins them after each book for a discussion about that book - both I've listened to of those have been great.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 5:52 pm to
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Just came across Book of the New Sun series by Gene Wolf - anyone read these?


It's a solid series overall, but it's a very meandering series and not very plot oriented. The characters are average. But it has very good world building and is a very unique and somewhat trippy story.

Definitely worth reading at some point, but I'm not nearly as big a fan as many are of the series.

Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:39 am to
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I kind of moved on - absolutely loved the first 2, really didn't care for Republic of Thieves. The whole interlude dual story thing sort of became stale for me in that one as well.



I liked the third book much more than the second.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:03 pm to
Ya, I think most people liked 3 more than 2 from what I have read. I just loved book 2 for some reason.

Plus I really don't care about or like the romance sequences in a lot of these stories - so the interludes were a drag (its been several years so I could be mistaken). I kind of prefer the "oh two protagonists are together now and are immediately in love" than a long, drawn out and developed romance because of it takes way less page time.

The main sequence was solid I think, but wasn't really enough to carry the book for me.

Posted by memphis tiger
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 5:24 pm to
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Plus I really don't care about or like the romance sequences in a lot of these stories


But half of the pirate story line was Jean Tannen’s romance sequence.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 6:24 pm to
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Plus I really don't care about or like the romance sequences in a lot of these stories


But half of the pirate story line was Jean Tannen’s romance sequence.



Really? Have no recollection of that haha - clearly i was glossing over it. I can put up with it (I have to in most if not all of the books it seems like ), but need the rest of it to pull its weight - maybe I just like pirates a lot.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:33 pm to
Came across another intriguing title - has anyone read The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester?

He has some early Hugo awards - The Demolished Man is another early sci fi book of his that sounds interesting.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:22 pm to
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Came across another intriguing title - has anyone read The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester?



It's a very solid read, interesting premise.
Posted by alphamicro
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:18 am to
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has anyone read The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester
Multiple times, although probably not in the last 10 years. Damn good book.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:25 am to
awesome, probably going to get that one and The Demolished Man.

I really love the early sci fi masters, haven't found much recent stuff that captures me the same although red rising was quite good.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 5:28 pm to
I'm starting up sober end of january through february - had to give myself some leeway for the game last night but hoping to get deep into a new series.

Taking opinions on what I should go with:

R. Scott Bakker - Prince of Nothing
Zelazney - Amber Chronicles
Abercrombie - First Law Standalones (and 2nd trilogy if it is finished)
Feist - Riftwar Cycle
Tad Williams - Memory, Sorrow, Thorn
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:05 pm to
Abercrombie or Zelazny are by far the best two of that list.

And btw, if you found Robin Hobb's Fitz books a little slow and tedious you are going to find Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn super fun . Up there for the most annoying main protagonist in any series I've ever read. Though it is well written.
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