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Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:33 pm to
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The Burning White was a fabulous conclusion.


Did not know that had dropped.

Time to check in on Gunner. I love that character.

Eta: wow! The reviews are crazy good.
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Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:38 pm to
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About 2/3 of the way through The Warded Man by Peter Brett - book 1 of his demon cycle series.


Loved the whole series. Listened on Audible. Well done all around.
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:43 pm to
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lightbringer with 5 big novels I think.


The world expands and expands. The sheer amount of characters that are actually significant is staggering. By book 5, you’re going, “Holy frick! That guy!?”
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:04 pm to
That kind of stuff really gets me into a series I've realized over the last few years - I liked DarkAngel, but it just didn't quite have the depth I usually look for.


I'm working on the last 2 books of Greatcoats, and after that have some sci fi but dont' have any big fantasy series on my shelf. Will probably go with Lighbringer in the fall.
Posted by MDB
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:20 pm to
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I haven’t read through the whole thread to see if it has been mentioned yet, but I just began reading Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke. A good read so far.


Finally a mention for the Rama series by Arthur C. Clarke. I read the entire series (5 books?) twice. He was a giant of sci/Fi and shows here. Amazing how politically correct he was back then (my only gripe).

Clarke also wrote a little gem called 2001: A Space Odyssey that bears worth reading. Better than the movie classic.

Also ate up anything Niven and Purnelle wrote — even the quirky Footfall.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:36 pm to
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Fonda Lee. She has two books out of a trilogy, Jade City and Jade War.


This (Jade City) was really entertaining. A mafia style story with great writing, and a cool magic system. Thanks for the rec!

Now, have to decide whether to go to book 2, or finish up Lightbringer.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 4:00 pm to
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Michael J Sullivan- Riyria series
John Hornor Jacobs- Incorruptibles series
Miles Cameron- Traitor Son Cycle
Alec Hutson- The Crimson Queen and Silver sorceress
Matthew Woodring Stover- Acts of Caine series
Kevin Hearne- Iron Druid series
im Butcher- Dresden Files series
Brian Staveley- Chronicles of the Unhewn Throne
Rob J Hayes- Ties that bind series, Best laid plansDavid A Wells- Sovereign of the seven isles series
Will Wight- Cradle series
Paul Kearney- Monarchies of God series, Macht series
Chris Wooding- Tales of the Ketty Jay series
Peter Flannery- Battle Mage


I'm trying to figure out where to go in this list - i've hit most everything else that you mentioned on page one of this thread by now.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 4:09 pm to
Sullivan
Butcher
Stavely
Hearn
Hutson
Flannery

In that order, for me. But Sullivan has 12 really good books in the same world. They may take you a while. But damn Riyira is awesome! If you're up for it, read Sullivan chronologically instead of in the order of release.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 4:35 pm to
Ya i've been meaning to get into sullivan and butcher - both have such big catalogues i've always ended up going with something else that I have a better idea of where to start
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:12 pm to
Flannery's Battlemage is a stand alone book, and worth a read.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:49 pm to
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I'm trying to figure out where to go in this list - i've hit most everything else that you mentioned on page one of this thread by now.



As far as the best books in that list go, I'd agree with MSM that Butcher and Sullivan are the best probably, but I'd put Will Wight up there with them. Those three would be the top tier for me personally.

I'd actually suggest you mix in the Dresden Files books in with other book series, as they are very quick reads and fun books. I know you were saying how the second book of Greatcoats was brutal for you (it's definitely a gritty series for sure), I think stuff like Dresden would make a good change of pace, though you'll probably get sucked in and binge them at some point. Just be aware that the first couple books are not nearly as good as the rest (not that they are terrible, just kinda average by comparison).

Anyway, I'm gonna kinda list books based on how much I enjoyed them as well as time considerations and I'll throw in a few people I hadn't read at the time I made that list:

1. Butcher-Dresden files
2. Sullivan-Riyria
3. Will Wight-Cradle series
4. Peter Flannery-Battle Mage (placing it a little higher due to the fact it's a single self contained book)
5. Alec Hutson- Crimson queen (great series and advantage of being a finished trilogy)
6.ML Wang-Sword of Kaigen (once again single book self contained story)
6. Stover-Acts of Caine (might be tough since you don't do kindle, simply because there is some weird copyright thing with the second book and it's out of print I think, I had to order it off ebay back in the day. I think it's on audible/audiobook though)
7.Miles Cameron-Traitor son cycle (his Masters and mages trilogy is a good gunpowder fantasy series too)
8. Chris Wooding-Ketty Jay
9. Brian Staveley-Unhewn Throne
10.Rob J Hayes (Abercrombie light, not meaning that as an insult, he's great in his own right).
11.Craig Schaefer-Daniel Faust, and later Harmony Black as spin offs from that series. Great author for people looking for something similar to Dresden that is high quality.
12. Kevin Hearne- Iron Druid. I guess I'll put him here, I have a hard time placing him because this series is kinda like the GOT TV show in that it nosedives at the end. For books 1-8 its a great series for Dresden/urban fantasy fans, but the final book is a stinker, it ends terribly. I have a hard time even recommending the series due to the last book, even though the rest of the series would have him top tier.
13. Paul Kearney
14. Mike Shel-Iconoclasts
15 Bryce O'Connor-Wings of War
16. David Wells Seven Isles
17. Phil Tucker-Chronicles of the black gate
18. John Hornor Jacobs-Incorruptibles
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:54 pm to
It was really just the greatcoats lament portion - that was so brutal it like made me depressed a little bit haha.

Almost done with book 4 of greatcoats - about 1/3 of the way through I was thinking i was ready to be done with this series, just sort of more of the same but really have enjoyed the middle section a ton.

Got Lord of Light lined and another standalone for this weekend and I guess I'll pick up the first few books of riyria and dresden and see which first chapter gets me most excited.

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6. Stover-Acts of Caine (might be tough since you don't do kindle, simply because there is some weird copyright thing with the second book and it's out of print I think, I had to order it off ebay back in the day. I think it's on audible/audiobook though)


I'm seeing that I will probably have to bail on that here at some point soon. Self publishing and all that means there will be some really good stuff that will only be available as an e-book
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:06 pm to
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Almost done with book 4 of greatcoats


Yeah, Falcio has a brutal time of it in that series. If you wind up deciding to read his other series down the line it's quite good too, and much less gritty/grueling. Much of the same humor as Greatcoats without the main character being put through quite so much of the ringer. Kinda like comparing Lawrence's Red queen trilogy to the broken empire trilogy.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:14 pm to
That is kind of why I asked about those series - need to sort of regroup and see what all recommendations I have hit and then go back and add other series from the same authors and collect some of the others people have talked about in this thread.

kings of the Wylde is one I need to get to as well.

I ordered stephen R Donaldson's gap cycle - trying to get some sci fi in there, but fantasy is what I really enjoy.

I've heard Sanderson say that fantasy is is a speculative fiction with a nostalgia factor for historic fiction while sci fi is speculative fiction looking towards the future.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Now, have to decide whether to go to book 2, or finish up Lightbringer.



At least you can't go wrong with either choice, hah. Glad you liked it.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:41 pm to
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kings of the Wylde is one I need to get to as well.

I ordered stephen R Donaldson's gap cycle - trying to get some sci fi in there, but fantasy is what I really enjoy.

I've heard Sanderson say that fantasy is is a speculative fiction with a nostalgia factor for historic fiction while sci fi is speculative fiction looking towards the future.


I'd put the Kings of the Wyld books up in the top of five of that list I just made, they are great.

I think Sanderson is on the nose with that comment, and probably accounts for why much like yourself I love fantasy way more than sci fi, I have a love for history as well. And the sci fi I enjoy the most tends to either be a sci fi blend of some sort or space opera, I'm not a huge fan of hard sci fi typically.

As far as the self published authors and the Kindle goes, it would definitely make your life much easier and cheaper. There are so many good self published authors now, and their books are super cheap on Kindle. Much easier to spend 3 to 6 bucks on the books rather than 15 bucks on the trade paperbacks, and most of them are on Kindle unlimited too, so you'd be able to spend 10 bucks for a month of KU and blow through a ton of books if you wanted. I've found so many good self pub fantasy authors recently through KU and getting suggestions in various places.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Spyhunter3
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:37 pm to
Not a huge fan of the genre but loved an oldie but goodie. A Wizard of Earthsea.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:11 pm to
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If you're up for it, read Sullivan chronologically instead of in the order of release.



The last book of the prequels either recently came out or will be released soon. I love that world
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:40 pm to
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The last book of the prequels either recently came out or will be released soon. I love that world


Didn't realize it was actually finished, guess I'll have to get around to reading it now. I read the first book when it came out, but it didn't really grab me the way the original series did, so I figured I'd wait a while till it was finished to try again.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:41 pm to
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I read the first book when it came out, but it didn't really grab me the way the original series did, so I figured I'd wait a while till it was finished to try again.



I like the original series better but I’ve enjoyed the prequels a lot.
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