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More&Les
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re: Publishing, anyone?
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Friend,

I started self publishing through Amazon. Relative success achieved, a publisher house came to me and now this house publishes for me. Amazon is perhaps the best way to get a start. You might also want to approach Pelican Press if you are truly a good writer. If it's just some LSU themed junk without any real skill, they won't take you seriously. However, if you have the gift, they would be an absolute great source of info and if they offer to publish, accept.

Yours,
TulaneLSU


Thanks for the info, Im a pretty good writer, Ive had several mainstream published articles and my book has been edited by a successful author/editor who has written multiple best-selling books on writing best-selling books.

As to the LSU theme, it is secondary to the story, there is a bit of LSU lore and tapestry woven throughout the book but mainly as a setting and backdrop to the story. The exception being the Billy Cannon stuff, there is a lot of detail about the counterfeiting scheme and some other events based on my father's personal stories and experiences.

I will reach out to Pelican


BitBuster
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Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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re: Publishing, anyone?
More&Les, tell me about the book company that is doing all that work for you for $7k. Do you have a link? It sounds like a vanity press.

You got to sell a lot of books to make up that $7k. Marketing is a bitch.
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More&Les
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Member since Nov 2012
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re: Publishing, anyone?
1160 Design, they were recommended by my editor, Stuart Horwitz

Marketing is kinda my thing


TulaneLSU
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re: Publishing, anyone?
Friend,

No one should pay a dime to publish these days. Your money would be better used advertising on TD and FB. TD naturally would be your target audience, and FB has some of the most complex algorithms for advertising so I'm sure they would get your target audience.

Publish the book yourself on Amazon, and do local advertising. Don't pay these money suckers to do data entry and advertising.

Yours,
TulaneLSU


More&Les
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Member since Nov 2012
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re: Publishing, anyone?
I sent a query to Pelican.

Thanks for the advice, I'm very busy and don't have a lot of time for the complete DIY publishing.

That said, I don't want to waste money and not get good results.

I appreciate your insight


S
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Member since Jan 2007
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re: Publishing, anyone?
I would look into self publishing and as you’ve seen we have a couple poster writers here. Think LSU Zombie has had some work published as well but it may be more graphic novel type stuff.

If you wanna test the outside world look for a copy of the literary marketplace on amazon or ebay.


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augustbengal
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re: Publishing, anyone?
I’m a published author (Women’s fiction and romance) with traditional publishing and indie. I’ll be happy to answer any questions you have. I’ve published over thirty books and work full time as an author. Happy to help if I can.


More&Les
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we need and IM feature on here...


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BitBuster
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augustbengal - what do you think is the best way to get a new author's books in the hands of the right people - his potential audience.

I've read that an author shouldn't spend too much money on trying to advertise the first book and to spend the money on the second one. The theory is that more books are what sells the author's "brand."


S
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I’ve got a short story collection im working on.


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augustbengal
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shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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re: Publishing, anyone?
I think that's the golden question. Finding an audience is so difficult because it takes spending some money on AMS ads and Facebook Ads to get the book in front of potential readers. At least that seems to be the consensus among successful indie authors.

One of the best things you can do as an author and business person is write more books. Indie authors do better when they have more content for readers to buy. I know many writers who write three or more books before releasing them with a strategy - one a month or every few weeks - hoping to build buzz. Series books do well. I have only six books in indie. I'm putting more in because one of my publishers reverted rights back to me so I'm actively working on learning more about things like creating effective Facebook ads and marketing on AMS (which seems easy but is not). I would suggest you write more books, come up with a marketing strategy. If you're writing a series, you could consider making your first book a loss leader (free or inexpensive) in order to hook readers and sell through to the other books in your series. If you can't write full-length books, novellas and even shorts can work in your favor. Readers are greedy and love new content so many successful indie authors try to give something every 3-4 months. If they are stand alone, I would suggest choosing a price range from $3.99-$5.99. Are you thinking about going wide or doing KDP (Kindle Unlimited)?

I'm a hybrid author because I still write for a publisher while I dabble in indie. But many of my friends who wrote for smaller publishers or who were mid-listers have gone completely indie and I don't think you could talk them out of giving up their books to a publisher again.

If you're on FB, I would recommend searching for Author Support Network - a private group started by Marie Force. It's a great resource for new writers who are considering indie.


BitBuster
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Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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re: Publishing, anyone?
Thank you augustbengal. Your advice has pushed me towards focusing on my next book. I'll check out that FB group.


augustbengal
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shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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You are most welcome. I’m always happy to chat with fellow writers and share what I know.


S
Texas Southern Fan
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Do you use a computer or type writer?


augustbengal
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shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
1273 posts

re: Publishing, anyone?
I use a computer. For me, it’s easier because that’s how publishers expect my manuscript to be delivered. And if you’re interested in indie publishing, you need to present a document that can be edited.

On that note, indie authors need to pay an editor to at the very least do copy edits. Nothing sinks the start of a career like a badly edited book.


liquid rabbit
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I agree on the importance of a good editor. I'm lucky to have a friend who is a former newspaper copy editor who checks my manuscripts. Her payment: a cheeseburger, a beer & a copy of the completed book.


augustbengal
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shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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You’ve got a good deal then. I pay a lot more for my editor. I’m a former English teacher and I still get confused on compound words and numbers. And I’ve likely gotten lazy with my grammar. I’m sure you’ve found as I have that your knowledge of craft and technique increases with each book. I get developmental edits on my traditional publishing books, but I don’t on my indie ones. But I have to have a copy editor. I wish mine could be paid in beers and burgers. That would be awesome ??


Sneaky__Sally
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re: Publishing, anyone?
As a reader dabbling in writing, I know that I rarely pick up books by authors with just one out. I read a ton so finding a good author with lots of books, a long series, or multiple trilogy's, etc. is what I really look for. I usually will make a note of someone who looks like they have something interesting and then delve into that author a little down the line once i can get two or three of their books at once.


augustbengal
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shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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I think this is typical for a lot of readers. I write romance and women’s fiction, and my series sells really well and readers always ask for me for “more, please.” Romance readers (and fantasy readers) often wait until there is a series at the ready to read at one time. That’s what good indie writers understand. Writing follow up books is super important.


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S
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re: Publishing, anyone?
I will never comprehend the tenses of Lie and lay
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