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Looking for opinions on these Fantasy Novels

Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:20 am
Posted by LSU_postman
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:20 am
Trying to decide if I should pickup one of the following fantasy books (listening on Audible)

I am considering this books because they are on the Recommended List for me in the Audible App:

Dawn of Wonder: The wakening. by Jonathan Renshaw

or

The Land: Founding - CHaos Seeds Series by Aleron Kong

I would also take anyone's suggestions for Epic or Contemporary Fantasy

Books Started but not yet Completed:
Spellmonger - Terry Mancour
Theft of Swords - Michael J SUllivan
We Are Legion(We are Bob) - Dennis E Taylor

A list of some previous books I have read are:
Lies of Lock Lamore
Homeland - R.A. Salvatore
Iron Druid Series - Kevin Hearne
Wool - Howey
Cycle of Arawn
Lock in - Scalzi
The Matian - Weir
Jim Butcher Stuff
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 10:28 am to
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Iron Druid Series - Kevin Hearne


I'm interested in a review of this series. It's 9 books and I'm hesitant to start. Once I start a series, I have to finish.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 11:22 am to
There's a fair amount of what you listed that I have not read.

Of the Fantasy I have read that you didn't list I would recommend:

The Demon Cycle series - Peter V Brett
The Faithful and The Fallen series - John Gwynne
The Raven's Shadow series - Anthony Ryan
The First Law Trilogy - Joe Abercrombie


Posted by LSU_postman
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 11:29 am to
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The Demon Cycle series - Peter V Brett The Faithful and The Fallen series - John Gwynne The Raven's Shadow series - Anthony Ryan The First Law Trilogy - Joe Abercrombie


I actual left off the Joe abercrombie First Law..I have started it but put it down. Not because it wasnt good, but I just got distracted.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 11:36 am to
I may be the only person here who has read it, but I really liked Dawn of Wonder. It has a ton of potential to be a really great series, though I have no idea about Renshaws future plans or writing pace.

Michael Sullivan and Riyira are awesome! Hard to put it down once you get started.

Spellmonger is good at times, and an absolute grind at times. Mancour is to wizardry details what Martin is to feast and pageantry details. 3 pages may be dedicated to the how/why/when/where of a mundane spell. It can get annoying.

I just finished Brian McClellans 5 powder mage books, and thoroughly enjoyed them all. He writes like Anthony Ryan, which is a very good thing to me.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 11:47 am
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:30 pm to
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just finished Brian McClellans 5 powder mage books, and thoroughly enjoyed them all. He writes like Anthony Ryan, which is a very good thing to me.


McClellan studied under Brandon Sanderson and seems to pump out books at about the same clip. The Powder Mage books are tons of fun. Need to read the most recent one still, but I dig that whole world.

Anthony Ryan also writes like crazy. Enjoyed the hell out of Raven's Shadow and have enjoyed all of Draconis Memorial, though I need to finish the last book.

These are the guys that aren't going to make big names for themselves to last the test of time, but they're damn good craftsmen who are earning good money doing what they're doing. Always look forward to their stuff.
Posted by LSU_postman
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:48 pm to
Tell me more about the powder mage books ..sounds intriguing.

Also..the wizardy details from Spellmonger and the narrator is what stopped my progress on SPellmonger.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 2:02 pm to
Main thing that stands out in Powder Mage is the setting and weaponry. A Napoleonic era setting and the arrival of black powder are pretty unique in a fantasy setting.

And the writing style is just gritty, violent, and without many lulls. Magic is done well, but not overdone. Battles are epic in scale. Just my kind of fantasy.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 2:33 pm to
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Main thing that stands out in Powder Mage is the setting and weaponry. A Napoleonic era setting and the arrival of black powder are pretty unique in a fantasy setting. And the writing style is just gritty, violent, and without many lulls. Magic is done well, but not overdone. Battles are epic in scale. Just my kind of fantasy.


What we think of as fantasy is such a new genre with Lord of the Rings coming out about 60 years ago and not really having a ton of other things available till later. The early works that followed explored magic, but generally stuck into the medieval fantasy and tolkein inspired races - with true sci-fi developed sort of as a parallel.

You are going to start seeing more and more of these kinds of settings and mixtures of setting / cultures come up. Also start seeing fantasy and sci-fi ideas get intertwined in certain series hopefully. Especially as video media inspires more and more young people to get into the genre with fresh ideas.

Sanderson's current mistborn trilogy is in that setting and I've wanted to check out The Shadow Campaigns series, which also features the "flintlock fantasy" setting as they call it.

There are some interesting takes on the steam-punk setting.

Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
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A Napoleonic era setting and the arrival of black powder are pretty unique in a fantasy setting.


I mean, I wouldn't call it totally unique. Flintlock fantasy is fairly popular. But the magic system is fun. I like how black powder doesn't just flip a normal soldier on its head, it also flips the magic world on its head.

But the best parts of those books are the setting, the breakneck pace, and the characters. Lots of twists and turns and love triangles and character growth. It's all well realized.

Essentially, the plot of Book 1bgoes something like this (from Wikipedia):

At the beginning of Promise of Blood, Field Marshal Tamas has just committed a brutal coup against Adro's monarchy. When he kills every single member of the Royal Cabal, they all utter the same mysterious phrase: "You can't break Kresimir's Promise".

Adamat, a former police inspector who is now a private investigator, is asked by Tamas to help solve the mystery. Meanwhile, Tamas is busy with purging the country's nobility and struggling to maintain peace during the inevitable civil war.

Taniel, Tamas's son and a talented powder mage who is able to consume gunpowder to give himself supernatural powers, is given the task to hunt down an uncommonly powerful member of the Royal Cabal who managed to escape during the coup. Soon it becomes clear that overthrowing the monarchy was just the beginning.

Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 8:43 pm to
Read most of the same stuff you did. Go with We Are Legion. It’s a fun series.
Posted by cajundop
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Dawn of Wonder: The wakening. by Jonathan Renshaw

or

The Land: Founding - CHaos Seeds Series by Aleron Kong



I am currently listening to Dawn of Wonder and am enjoying it immensely. The book is flying by and I find myself researching when book 2 comes out (spoiler: not soon.).

I just added The Land: Founding to my wishlist earlier today so I look forward to reading that one as well but cannot comment yet.

I love Mancour but agree with this thread that he can be a grind at times. I've devoured everything by Sullivan that I've listened to. I've read/listened through Journeymage and am waiting on the rest of the series to show up on Audible.

If you want a fun read try picking up something by Scott Meyer. His stuff is just funny, almost how Jim Butcher can be at times.

If want an epic fantasy that no one has heard of try David A Wells, Sovereign of the Seven Isles. It was a great series!
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Trying to decide if I should pickup one of the following fantasy books (listening on Audible)


I haven't read Dawn of Wonder but The Land series is solid but not amazing. Definitely worth a read but I'd definitely recommend a ton of other fantasy before it. The more you've played DnD style games the more you will probably enjoy it.

Michael J Sullivan's Riyria books that you started blow it away, and The We are Bob books are much better as well.

I'd also recommend the Powder Mage series that has been mentioned in this thread, the initial series and his current one in the same world are both excellent. Another flintlock style fantasy series that's also very good is Django Wexler's Shadow Campaign series.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 9:39 pm
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:42 pm to
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I'm interested in a review of this series. It's 9 books and I'm hesitant to start. Once I start a series, I have to finish.




The Iron Druid books are very good for the most part, it's like Harry Dresden lite if you are a fan of Butcher's books. The only issue I had with the series is the last book is probably the worst in the series.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:29 am to
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You are going to start seeing more and more of these kinds of settings and mixtures of setting / cultures come up.


A good one of these that I didn't see mentioned was Jim Butcher's Codex Alera.

Think combination of Roman culture with elemental-based magic. There's also a cool historical tie-in that I don't want to spoil for the Roman history buffs out there who read the series.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:56 am to
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 mean, I wouldn't call it totally unique. Flintlock fantasy is fairly popular.


Cool. So if I started with Powder Mage, and enjoyed it, where should I go next? I'd be interested in more "flintlock fantasy".
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:57 am to
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Jim Butcher's Codex Alera


Extremely underrated, IMO.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:08 pm to
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I'd be interested in more "flintlock fantasy".


Draconis Memoria is very good.

Also, I'm listening to The Thousand Names, by Django Wexler, and am enjoying the hell out of it.

The Mistborn books I believe mix in the beginning of guns. I haven't read them all, yet, but that is my understanding. Perhaps it's in the Wax and Wayne trilogy.

The Lightbringer series introduces firearms to an extent.

Others I have looked up, but have no experience with include:

Thieftaker Chronicles
Iron Elves
Temeraire
At the Queen's Command
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel.

Though Mistborn and Lightbringer bring firearms into the mix, I wouldn't call them flintlock fantasy in the same vein as the others mentioned. Draconis Memoria, Powder Mage and Shadow Campaigns (the Thousand Names series), all rely heavily on a Napoleonic-esque setting, when cannon, rifling, and the advent of rapid fire guns come into play.

Look around and you'll find it. It's growing.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Think combination of Roman culture with elemental-based magic. There's also a cool historical tie-in that I don't want to spoil for the Roman history buffs out there who read the series.


Really interesting area which isn't explored enough. Especially with how mystical some of those cultures were, like the Egyptians. Some sort of story in that setting would be great. And the historical aspect brings it alive so easily because you can fit it in to a world that actually existed and most people already have the imagery and some of the history in their head.

ETA: The best part of it all is that with reading stories in different settings like that, it allows new stories in a traditional setting to have their place and not seem as stale anymore.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:59 am to
The Wax and Wayne series is more old west than napoleonic. Very good though.
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