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Does writing give a high?

Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:40 pm
Inspiration hit this afternoon and I just spent the past 6 hours typing out an 8-page (single-spaced, small font because I couldn't be bothered to change it) outline/general-overview of notes for the first part of a book and now I feel...




For those more versed than I at writing (which is probably everyone), where should I go now? The story that will come from my notes will fill what I think may end up being 1/4 of my book. Do I flesh those notes out more or do I continue onward until I have the whole book written out in a generalized manner?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:47 pm to
Without giving away too much, what type of book is it? Nonfiction, alternate history, spy thriller, romance novel, murder mystery? That would help us give you guidance.
Posted by JSnipe13
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 9:21 pm to
Look up on YouTube a Brandon Sanderson lecture from 2016 when he taught a class at BYU. Even if you’re not looking into writing fantasy, there’s still some good stuff about writing in general. I just started watching it and it’s great information!

As far as where to go next, it depends on what type of writer you are! Figuring that out is the biggest thing. The first lecture from that series on YouTube addresses that!
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Without giving away too much, what type of book is it? Nonfiction, alternate history, spy thriller, romance novel, murder mystery? That would help us give you guidance.


quote:

Look up on YouTube a Brandon Sanderson lecture from 2016 when he taught a class at BYU. Even if you’re not looking into writing fantasy, there’s still some good stuff about writing in general. I just started watching it and it’s great information!

As far as where to go next, it depends on what type of writer you are! Figuring that out is the biggest thing. The first lecture from that series on YouTube addresses that!



Urban fantasy, an idea for a world I've had for a loooooooong time (magic re-appearing in our world after thousands of years of absence) but never could find the right intro for it. Some ideas I liked but they ended up feeling shoe-horned or just went nowhere.

Speaking of Sanderson, today and tonight I've felt a bit like Taravangian on a really good day (without the assholery).


Thanks for the input, folks!
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 10:04 pm
Posted by JSnipe13
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:08 pm to
I used to write all the time up until about high school and then focused more on sports and friends. I’ve recently gotten back into reading and all those creative thoughts and yearnings are starting to rush back! In my 20’s and know I have a ton of time left to write, so I really am hoping to get back into it.

They say everyone has a book in them, and writing for me has always been therapeutic, so I definitely see where the high comes from lol. Good luck on your story! Keep us updated!
Posted by S
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:10 am to
Somewhat

Just write.

Like Sean Connery says in finding forrester: “The best feeling is finishing the first draft. Write your first draft with your heart, rewrite with your head.”
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:39 pm to
Depends on your writing style: pantser vs planner. Bradbury was a pantser. Most people are planners. Many drafts of several novels have given me the knowledge that I'm a general planner but allow myself to let go of the plan and write if inspiration takes hold and I wander off in a different direction. Problem is that then the whole fricking plan has to change. Detailed planners will say the outline is the actual creation bit and the writing is really just mechanical. There is no one answer, but my general advice is to have at least a solid idea of the ending and a decent idea of the basic steps you're going to take to get there. And it can be as simple as:

X is [insert character traits, often an orphan] with the ability to do [insert special trait].

X gets thrust into a situation that causes him to go down his path of destiny. [Insert the situation, e.g. death of a friend, someone finds out about X's power and tries to take him out, etc.]. X can never return to being who he was now. His trajectory is inevitable.

X has to overcome [insert main obstacle]. This can be another character (i.e. a villain) or a situation. Typically better to have a solid villain working against X.

To overcome the main obstacle, X must first do [insert intervening obstacles]. X has to find the wizard who can teach X about his powers, but Villain has his henchmen looking for X. After finding wizard, X must find the enchanted item/sword/etc., but Villain's net is closing around X. Then X has to etc etc.

X confronts Villain, but Villain escapes. Or Villain dies. Or whatever.

X wins or loses. X's destiny is fulfilled or is incomplete and he must keep going.

Blah blah blah.

Basic, basic plot points. But know the ending and the basics of getting there so you can write with intention.
Posted by S
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:43 pm to


I always liked Vonnegut’s story structure guide
Posted by Htowntiger90
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:34 pm to
Yes it does give a high. It's the tenth round of revising where the buzz wears off some lol.
Keep writing that first draft til it's done IMO. You'll go back and flesh more things out every time you look at it.
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:59 am to
Just give your characters a problem...then fix the problem...for an entire book. That basically sums up the guidance I received in upper level writing classes in the LSU English/Creative Writing department way back when I was completing my degree. Good luck!

I want to get high on writing very soon, too. It has been too long for me.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:57 pm to
Great thread and timely. Been getting the itch myself. Have a general idea for my story but nothing on paper yet. Just in my head. I've had so many great ideas just vanish in my head because I forgot to jot down notes.
Posted by JSnipe13
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:04 am to
Same! Seems like most of my ideas come at times when jotting down a note or even making a quick audio note aren’t possible. Specifically in the shower lol. Seems to be the best time for me to think. Phone is waterproof so maybe I just need to keep it handy lol.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:44 am to
I've got about 6 or so little notebook of ideas / notes, some of them contradictory or changing prior ideas sitting in a drawer - probably equates to about two completely full legal pads thus far. But a lot of it is just noting interesting story structure as I'm reading / watching TV, interesting character models and how I may want to work some of that into my story.


I've also been taking notes on specific characters / character types, setting / world map, history, notes of types of characters and just an overall way the universe was.I have been upping my reading a lot and sometimes inspiration strikes and I am able to get a good grasp and knock out like 10 pages of notes right in a row as it comes to me, instead of sitting there thinking trying to flesh it out. That has happened 5 or 6 times and really helped get the overall path of the story, how the world(s) look in my head but when that happens my heart starts racing and i start getting ahead of myself and can definitely see it as some sort of "high".


ETA:

Thanks for this

quote:

Look up on YouTube a Brandon Sanderson lecture from 2016 when he taught a class at BYU. Even if you’re not looking into writing fantasy, there’s still some good stuff about writing in general. I just started watching it and it’s great information!

As far as where to go next, it depends on what type of writer you are! Figuring that out is the biggest thing. The first lecture from that series on YouTube addresses that!



Just started and its great
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 9:52 am
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:27 pm to
“Why the Chicken Crossed the Road....and more”
Posted by Captain Ray
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:28 am to
Writing is fun and when you get into it its consuming. It takes time, dedication, and patience. It's not for every one though try writing a blog and test your self kinda feel the water.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:36 pm to
I've written or co-written more than a half dozen screenplays. I absolutely hate the process, but I can't stop. It's an obsession and a necessary evil.

The best expression I've seen used was "I hate writing, but I love having written."
Posted by Htowntiger90
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 3:46 pm to
Almost sounds we have a TD writers group!
Writing is...
Posted by Captain Ray
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:04 pm to
After 2 editions and 2 touch ups we finally consider our first book done. It has been a 3 year learning experience and we are still learning lots. Now comes the marketing phase while we write the second in the series.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Just give your characters a problem...then fix the problem...for an entire book. That basically sums up the guidance I received in upper level writing classes in the LSU English/Creative Writing department way back when I was completing my degree. Good luck!


When were you there. I was there from 04 to 07.
Posted by Captain Ray
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:11 pm to
This time last year I would have answered this with a big NO but now that all the editing proof reading rereading changing publishing getting beta readers more changing and republishing etc. is over and we are writing the next one I had almost forgotten how fun and exciting it is. Today working together we knocked down 3 chapters and are excited and well high on the coming adventures.
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