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re: Does anyone else have this issue or am I just a Misogynistic Pig.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 2:28 pm to Kingshakabooboo
Posted on 6/3/24 at 2:28 pm to Kingshakabooboo
I had a literature professor that I didn’t realize when I took his course he was a rabid feminist. His wife, a tenured professor, was quite mannish and eventually left him for a lady friend. Sad. He was a pretty decent guy. I knew none of this at the time.
The entire reading list was novels by women and one about women, Flaubert’s Madam Bovary. I should have had my antenna adjusted because I was the only guy in the class. I was blind to that because there were some good looking girls there. (This is pre-meeting, chasing, and catching Mrs. M to be)
The novels were awful. Depressing often, and often childishly prurient, seeming to intentionally mock or exasperate conventional sexual morality, especially to demonstrate women could be as casual and intentionally cavalier and vulgar towards sex as men. Some even seemed to try and shock any remaining vestiges of male modesty.
I was not shocked personally finding it more sad and comical that such a potentially promising class for finding Miss Right was populated by girls trying to outdo each other in a race to the depths of feminism and sexual “freedom”.
Mr. M., undergoing severe temptation, considered that perhaps he might have made some inroads of a carnal nature given that everyone there was talking and writing a very hot Libertine game.
Probably for the best that I blew any chances by being hyper critical of the bullshite, especially condemning Sylvia Plath’s The Bell Jar. I committed virtual suicide when I got fed up an bored with Madam Bovary and called it Madam Ovary and said their grievances were overblown, they didn’t understand men, the men they dated and complained about weren’t very good men, and they should find someone nice, get married, and have kids.
I didn’t have much of a filter. Not so much now either I guess.
I met the future Mrs. M the next semester in French. Got married a few months after graduation 45 years ago.
So, I have the same issue as you apparently and I’m not a misogynistic pig.
The entire reading list was novels by women and one about women, Flaubert’s Madam Bovary. I should have had my antenna adjusted because I was the only guy in the class. I was blind to that because there were some good looking girls there. (This is pre-meeting, chasing, and catching Mrs. M to be)
The novels were awful. Depressing often, and often childishly prurient, seeming to intentionally mock or exasperate conventional sexual morality, especially to demonstrate women could be as casual and intentionally cavalier and vulgar towards sex as men. Some even seemed to try and shock any remaining vestiges of male modesty.
I was not shocked personally finding it more sad and comical that such a potentially promising class for finding Miss Right was populated by girls trying to outdo each other in a race to the depths of feminism and sexual “freedom”.
Mr. M., undergoing severe temptation, considered that perhaps he might have made some inroads of a carnal nature given that everyone there was talking and writing a very hot Libertine game.
Probably for the best that I blew any chances by being hyper critical of the bullshite, especially condemning Sylvia Plath’s The Bell Jar. I committed virtual suicide when I got fed up an bored with Madam Bovary and called it Madam Ovary and said their grievances were overblown, they didn’t understand men, the men they dated and complained about weren’t very good men, and they should find someone nice, get married, and have kids.
I didn’t have much of a filter. Not so much now either I guess.
I met the future Mrs. M the next semester in French. Got married a few months after graduation 45 years ago.
So, I have the same issue as you apparently and I’m not a misogynistic pig.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:25 pm to scrooster
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They're not woke women in the sense of third wave feminists. They're more like cool butch chicks you'd wanna slam some beers with
That’s a perfect description of Paglia. Because she IS a semi-butch.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:13 pm to Kingshakabooboo
97% of the time, I agree.
But this post makes me mention a bothersome trend I've been seeing. It seems like 90% of new books I've seen coming out over the last few years are by female authors.
anyone else notice that?
But this post makes me mention a bothersome trend I've been seeing. It seems like 90% of new books I've seen coming out over the last few years are by female authors.
anyone else notice that?
Posted on 10/4/26 at 7:18 pm to Kingshakabooboo
One hundred percent agree with you on not liking them. It's very few and far between that you can take one seriously.
Posted on 10/7/26 at 6:58 am to uggabugga
Being that more women are readers, it makes sense, at least to publishers. Women comprise 54.6 percent of readers, opposed to men's 35.1 percent. Publishers aren't stupid. They have to make money. They publish what sells. A white male debuting into publishing these days makes him a unicorn. For the past twenty years, males who weren't well-established didn't have as many opportunities as women and diverse writers. I watch deal memos since (dun, dun duh) I'm a female author...
I don't take offense that many of you can't find a female author you like. Most of us don't write for males. I do have a few avid male readers but when I look at my statistics, it's about 9% and that's for woman's fiction books. Yes, there are men who read women's fiction. My father who reads military/thrillers/police procedurals has yet to read any of my books, and I've published twenty-eight novels. He's proud of me, but he has no interest in my stories. You don't have to like women writers. Frankly, I read more female writers than I do male. But I don't look at it by gender. I look at it by talent. And if you're trying to say that males have more talent than females at writing, then maybe you do have an issue with women, whether you have daughters or not. Because that's not true. In the history of publishing, we don't see women emerging as writers until the mid-1800s and most were writing under male pseudonyms. Historically-speaking, women didn't start mattering to publishing until the 1980s and even then they didn't get serious deals. So pardon us while we catch up a bit to all the white guys who dominated the industry for centuries. Also, like male writers, female writers write for their audience - women. So their stories are about things women like, which differ from males. My dad adores WEB Griffith. I couldn't get through six pages of describing a weapon. That author knows his audience, and I wasn't one of them. You like male authors because they are writing for YOU. You don't like female authors for the most part because you aren't their target audience.
But as far as publishing goes, yes, there are more books by women but that's because more women read and buy.
I don't take offense that many of you can't find a female author you like. Most of us don't write for males. I do have a few avid male readers but when I look at my statistics, it's about 9% and that's for woman's fiction books. Yes, there are men who read women's fiction. My father who reads military/thrillers/police procedurals has yet to read any of my books, and I've published twenty-eight novels. He's proud of me, but he has no interest in my stories. You don't have to like women writers. Frankly, I read more female writers than I do male. But I don't look at it by gender. I look at it by talent. And if you're trying to say that males have more talent than females at writing, then maybe you do have an issue with women, whether you have daughters or not. Because that's not true. In the history of publishing, we don't see women emerging as writers until the mid-1800s and most were writing under male pseudonyms. Historically-speaking, women didn't start mattering to publishing until the 1980s and even then they didn't get serious deals. So pardon us while we catch up a bit to all the white guys who dominated the industry for centuries. Also, like male writers, female writers write for their audience - women. So their stories are about things women like, which differ from males. My dad adores WEB Griffith. I couldn't get through six pages of describing a weapon. That author knows his audience, and I wasn't one of them. You like male authors because they are writing for YOU. You don't like female authors for the most part because you aren't their target audience.
But as far as publishing goes, yes, there are more books by women but that's because more women read and buy.
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