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Currently reading Shogun by James Clavell

Posted on 2/26/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
1384 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 4:39 pm
I'm just about 100 pages in and I can't put the book down. At first was a little confused when they would switch back and fourth between thoughts of characters. Now I can't wait to turn to the next page. Very well written.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10578 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 7:07 pm to
Such a great book. I get jealous when people start reading something of that level that I can never again enjoy for the first time. The actual history of Japan during that era is actually much more complex and compelling than the book, or any fiction book, can duplicate. One of these days i'm going to tackle Taiko or Musashi to get a gist of the real deal. Makes Game Of Thrones look simplistic. Have fun.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8585 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 7:21 pm to
Fantastic book. I highly suggest reading King Rat, Tai-pan, and Noble House by Clavell as well. All of them are outstanding.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7905 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:00 pm to
Excellent book
Read the whole series--you won't be disappointed
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3182 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 8:13 am to
Read it last year. Amazing book.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:02 am to
Might start this one next. Have had it for a while and just haven't opened it yet.
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4019 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:43 am to
After you finish the book, the mini-series isn't that bad either. Obviously it's not near the level of the book, but I enjoyed it.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:44 pm to
Love this novel. Read it a few years ago and knew I wanted to read the rest of The Asian Saga. Read Tai-pan last year, and to me it was even better. You have picked a fantastic one, my friend.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:38 am to
I don't know why I have not read this book.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25850 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

I highly suggest reading King Rat, Tai-pan,


No Gai-Jin? Loved Gai-Jin.

I read through Shogun once and loved it. Haven't read it in years though and definitely should put it in line for a re-read.

Hell, for one reason or another I stopped at King Rat. Should probably just work through the whole series.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8585 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

No Gai-Jin? Loved Gai-Jin.


I enjoyed Gai-Jin and Whirlwind (after the first 150-200 pages anyway, which are pretty slow) a fair bit, but I just don't consider them on the same level as the other books in his Asian Saga. The entire series is definitely well worth reading for sure though.

I guess the best way I can put it is I have read Tai-pan, Noble House, King Rat, and Shogun at least twice each, and I've only read the other two once (and had no particular urge to read them again).
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 7:10 pm
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 3:46 pm to
Should the Asian series be read in sequence or are they pretty independent of each other?
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10578 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:43 pm to
Shogun is clearly the best and occurs first anyway. Taipan and its sequels need to be read in order. King Rat is a stand alone.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:38 am to
I might have to try this one again. I feel like I tried it a couple years ago, and it never clicked. I remember being so excited for it as the Japanese fascinate me. Perhaps I'll try it again.
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
996 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 7:24 am to
Tai-Pan and Noble House are two of my all time favorite novels.

I actually purchased a small stock position in Jardines as a result of these books. The current Tai-Pan is Sir Henry Keswick.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 6:08 pm to
Great book, you should notice late in the book he his all these plots going and raps it up very quick. I thought it should have been about 400 pages more and found out later he had planned a much larger book but was told to cut it short.

Great writer loved all his works.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10578 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 7:10 pm to
That makes sense. It ends much too quickly but you do get the sense that their is an ongoing struggle that will not end quickly and that is what was really going on in Japan at the time. Hell, he could have written at least three more books to continue the story.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:09 am to
Currently about 10% into my second attempt at reading this, and I already know why I stopped the first time. Clavell's imagination and ability to weave a story is awesome, and I love ancient Japanese culture, but holy shite this dude's writing style is horrific. He is all over the lace, zero structure, jumps from narrator to narrator mid-paragraph, so difficult to follow.

I'm going to continue because I really do like the story, but holy shite it's difficult to read this dude.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10679 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:31 pm to
Ha I just started this book as well. About 60 pages in.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:45 am to
Clavell is underrated.
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