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The True Differences Between Apple and Android and which may be better for you.

Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:27 am
I came across this article that I thought the entire Tech board could benefit from reading. I've seen a lot of comments from the android folks on how "Android came out with it first and there's 50 ways to customize the feature" while all Apple does is "create and iOS that can barely do anything without zero customization." While some of those statements may have some truth to them...when that's all that's said it's incredibly misleading. I think this article also helps differentiate for those looking to make an honest decision between the two.

Here's some highlights:

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Home screen widgets and third party keyboards (which replace the default system keyboard) have been associated with Android for the last five years as something iOS has lacked. Given that Apple created the concept of Desk Accessories as mini apps for the Mac desktop back in 1981, and that OS X Tiger promoted more recent Dashboard Widgets back in 2005 (before Google even acquired Android), it might make you wonder why Apple is only now introducing standalone widgets for iOS. Custom Keyboards pose a similar quandary: iPhone presented a virtual onscreen keyboard when it debuted in 2007 as one of its primary differentiating features. Additionally, among the first iOS App Store titles in 2008 was ShapeWriter, a non-traditional keyboard app that input text via gestures using technology developed at IBM and Linköping University, similar to Swype (both of which have since been acquired by Nuance, which has already announced support for Swype as a Custom Keyboard Extension for iOS 8).

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Android didn't even debut until nearly a year after ShapeWriter, in part because Google's original concept for Android was a Java Mobile button phone, just like everyone else had been selling. Android eventually showed up without a working virtual keyboard because Google focused on user input via physical mini keyboards and an LED lit trackball, failing to grasp the value of reconfigurable keyboards that Steve Jobs had touted as a core design concept for the original iPhone in stark contrast to the rest of the industry (below).


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Apple's focus on performance, privacy and security in iOS have trumped Android's widgets and custom keyboard features in the market for premium phones, keeping Apple sustainably profitable as other hardware makers using Android have gone out of business or regularly lost money (including Google's own Motorola, which lost hundreds of millions of dollars in quarter after quarter).


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That's not to say that there's no value in widgets or custom keyboards. Android's promotion of both has highlighted a variety of interesting abilities. And of course, Apple's iOS has also incorporated system-supplied widgets (like Stocks and Weather) and app-specific custom keyboards (again, as in Apple's own Numbers). What Apple hasn't done is fling iOS wide open to unrestricted hobbyist experimentation without considering the consequences. Google's decision to do just that with Android has manifested the problems associated with rushing poorly conceived, half baked solutions to market. Widgets on Android are commonly associated with battery drain and can help contribute to the noticeable performance lag that still affects the system.


Whether you read all that or not, this article to me really points out well the main difference between the two. Android may have 100 ways to do the same thing, but when you really look at it, 90% of those are rushed, half brained attempts just rushing something out to the market. If you like having all those options, then Android may be for you.
On the other hand, Apple takes great care and measure to make sure they anything and everything they add to their ecosystem works flawlessly and does not deteriorate from the overall experience and connectedness of iOS. If you like that aspect of your OS, then Apple may be for you.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 11:34 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:55 am to
You try so hard to make your chick phone cool again, not gonna happen.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:56 am to
Man you are insecure about a phone
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:00 pm to
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You try so hard to make your chick phone cool again, not gonna happen


Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:01 pm to
So mad
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:31 pm to
Your article is sourced from "Apple Insider", so I'm sure it is a fair and even-handed treatment of these matters.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:44 pm to
It's actually a pretty evenly keeled article,pretty much only citing facts.
Posted by WHATDOINO
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:45 pm to
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Brettesaurus Rex



Still trying to justify that pretty white iPhone 5 ehh?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Android may have 100 ways to do the same thing, but when you really look at it, 90% of those are rushed, half brained attempts just rushing something out to the market



This is wildly far from true.
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Apple takes great care and measure to make sure they anything and everything they add to their ecosystem works flawlessly and does not deteriorate from the overall experience and connectedness of iOS


iPhone apps crash more than twice the rate Android ones do . As an owner of both, I find this to be true. And my iOS likes to randomly reboot 2-3 times/week. Never happens on my Nexus running KitKat or my Archos running ICS.


ETA: You said you posted "the true differences" and then posted one of the most subjective articles with almost no objective measures considered.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:07 pm to
Dear God, Please make it stop.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:24 pm to
Back in my day, we actually measured dicks.

Now it seems like the youngins' are measuring phones.

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:45 pm to
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ETA: You said you posted "the true differences" and then posted one of the most subjective articles with almost no objective measures considered.


And here I was hoping this thread would be the one where we talk about facts and technical things.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:48 pm to
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And here I was hoping this thread would be the one where we talk about facts and technical things.




I was really confused by what was in this thread, given the "What are some things you can do on Android that you can't on iOS?" also on the front page.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 2:04 pm to
Nothing stated is false
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Nothing stated is false



Then explain how both
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Apple takes great care and measure to make sure they anything and everything they add to their ecosystem works flawlessly and does not deteriorate from the overall experience and connectedness of iOS
and more frequent app crashing can coincide.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 2:35 pm to
Well, who knows what kind of a apps were included in that test and even if it has any merit, I've experienced an app crash maybe 6 or 7 times in the time I've had my 5S
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 2:36 pm to
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It's actually a pretty evenly keeled article,pretty much only citing facts.

What?! This article is so biased and has so many jabs at Android it's pathetic. I didn't realize the delusion was so thick that people actually think an article like this comes across as "evenly keeled".

A brief selection from the article:
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similar to Android's, but secure
Right there in the title they start taking jabs about security, and never really elaborate on that opinion
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Google focused on user input via physical mini keyboards and an LED lit trackball, failing to grasp the value of reconfigurable keyboards that Steve Jobs had touted
Ah, so when Google is late to something, they "fail to grasp the value", but when Apple is late it's for all the excellent reasons we list in this article.
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That resulted in virtually all Android users being familiar with the concept of both ideas, despite Android having shown up two years late to the iPhone party in terms of virtual keyboards.
Let's just throw in a jab for jabbing's sake.
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Apple's focus on performance, privacy and security in iOS have trumped Android's widgets and custom keyboard features in the market for premium phones
Another extremely opinionated jab.
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Google's decision to do just that with Android has manifested the problems associated with rushing poorly conceived, half baked solutions to market.
Opinionated, and untrue, jab.
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Widgets on Android are commonly associated with battery drain and can help contribute to the noticeable performance lag that still affects the system.
Imagine that, an extremely useful feature uses both battery power and system resources... the horror!
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It's virtually impossible for Google to police whether a third party keyboard spies on users. And it is well known that many actually do, recording users' key presses and uploading the data via the network because there's no functional security boundaries in place to stop such malicious activity from occurring.
Interesting choice of words, considering every app's permissions tell the user what it is allowed to do, and also considering most keyboards that do this do so as part of a valuable, differentiating feature and are not malicious at all.
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Security on Android is largely based upon naive trust. Even apparently legitimate custom keyboard developers have been found to send users' keystrokes back to their servers for processing in clear text making everything they type open to anyone listening.
Again, this is spelled out in the app permissions, and the user is also warned when enabling these keyboards. Why call it "naive trust", when this is well above and beyond how desktop OS's handle app security?
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As an experienced platform vendor that has dealt with malicious security attacks decades before Google was even incorporated, Apple exercises a lot more concern about leaving its platform open to exploit.
Here we have to make apologies for Apple for lagging in features. Nevermind that their supposed extreme concern over exploits has resulted in a mobile OS whose major versions have been exploited in an average of 4 days, prior to iOS7 (which brought that average up quite a bit, requiring 3 months before a proper exploit was found).
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In the design of Android, Google has repeatedly bet that nothing bad will ever happen, and has regularly lost that bet at the expense of its users.
Care to elaborate on these bad things that have happened, and how Android users have paid for them?
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In contrast to Android, Apple's vision for Today Extensions is clearly aimed at presenting quick access to scores, stocks and similar information in the context of other notifications, rather than simply padding the Home screen with a busy box of fluff to make up for a lack of significant, native apps.
This is so ridiculous I don't think I can ridicule it further.
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Google patents the type of patent that Google doesn't respect today
This is one of the section titles in the article, and this whole section just seems to have been thrown in as yet another shot at Google. It also casts aside the fact that Google's patent portfolio is almost strictly defensive. At this point one wouldn't even remember that the article is about new iOS features.
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After belatedly recognizing the value of onscreen keyboards, Google opened up third party access to a core Android system resource back in 2009 to allow anyone to offer custom software for text input. This has been particularly valuable to Android users because Google's default system keyboard was widely considered to not be very good.
More fluff thrown in just to take shots.
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At the same time, there are third party custom keyboards that many Android users find compelling, and those input systems were previously impossible to port to iOS because of Apple's abundance of caution to protect users' privacy and security.
And here we go again, making apologies for shortcomings under the guise of an abundance of caution. Give me a fricking break.
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 2:55 pm to
Yeah, this article is a joke
Posted by hikingfan
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 3:28 pm to
From the article:

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Apple's strict rules for new Custom Keyboards


With iOS 8's new Custom Keyboard Extensions, developers can implement alternative systems, with a few restrictions. First of all, Custom Keyboards can't be used to type in secure text field objects, such as the users' passcode or other password fields. When a user attempts to enter secure text using a Custom Keyboard (like the new Swype, below), iOS 8 temporarily reverts to the system keyboard, then returns the user back to their preferred keyboard afterward.

Custom Keyboards are also prevented from entering "phone pad" input, such as the phone number field in Contacts. Apple also notes that Custom Keyboards "cannot select text or control cursor position" and "cannot offer inline autocorrection controls near the insertion point" due to the way they are implemented.


I have to say I am pretty disappointed by this. Another feature gimped due to excessive paranoia.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 3:30 pm to
So all of that to try and justify why iphags are finally getting custom keyboards? CSB.
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