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re: The Gentrification of New Orleans

Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

there's a long road ahead until the city is even to pre-Katrina levels when it comes to economic significance


Come on, man.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:32 pm to
New Orleans lost over half of it's corporate HQs post Katrina and 1600 businesses. That's far from a small deal.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 8:33 pm
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29132 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:37 pm to
Thanks. I'm sure even that Exxon location is downsizing once again. I read Shell is basically leaving Lafayette.


Speaking of, currently watching the Republican candidates on CSPAN, and Jindal sounded really impressive (shockingly)
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:38 pm to
Virtually anyone who lives here will tell you that things are not perfect economically. But that the future has never been brighter. I certainly would not describe it as a "long road."
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116092 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:42 pm to
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New Orleans lost over half of it's corporate HQs post Katrina and 1600 businesses. That's far from a small deal.


Yet all indicators are positive. Start ups, newly expanded museums and generally better quality of life. Real estate is booming. The port had a record year and tourism is back to pre-Katrina levels.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3937 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:44 pm to
I think the airport continues to hurt the influx of major business...it's fine for tourist but too Podunk for business travel...not enough non-stop flights, airport is deserted by 9 pm...business travelers need a lot more flexibility...
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:47 pm to
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The next mayoral election will be a watershed moment in New Orleans history.


And there won't be a single competent who can win on the ballot.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36403 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:48 pm to
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I think the airport continues to hurt the influx of major business...it's fine for tourist but too Podunk for business travel...not enough non-stop flights, airport is deserted by 9 pm...business travelers need a lot more flexibility...




hence the new airport planned
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:52 pm to
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Having a metro of 1.2 million people and the headquarters of 12 public companies is embarrassing.


Birmingham has the same population and we are down to about 15 public companies. We had 30 of them 15 years ago. This is a national trend as large corporations purchase smaller ones and move the HQ to NYC, Chicago, etc.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116092 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

I think the airport continues to hurt the influx of major business...it's fine for tourist but too Podunk for business travel...not enough non-stop flights, airport is deserted by 9 pm...business travelers need a lot more flexibility...


Great point. Airport sucks and has for a very long time.
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:57 pm to
Gentrification is horrible. I much prefer living in places where constant fear of being murdered by roving bands of murderous youths is constant and overwhelming.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

To answer the OP's question, gentrification will indeed affect the "essence" of the city. I think it's safe to assume essence in this context is defined as: neighborhood identity, music, traditions, etc omitting drugs, violence, blight, and crime. Gentrification of neighborhoods will price out residents to be moved into affordable neighborhoods in other areas of the city. Nevertheless, these residents will still be in town and they will be able to congregate in the historic cultural centers but not live there.

The largest contribution of "essence" being lost should be attributed to the demolition of the housing projects. That itself has very little to do with reverse white flight.

This is what I had in mind.

I would like to think there was a way to improve neighborhoods and lower crime, blight, ect without pricing out residents. Job creation would be a nice byproduct of gentrification but it typically only brings niche businesses that benefit a small segment
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116092 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:02 pm to
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Birmingham has the same population and we are down to about 15 public companies. We had 30 of them 15 years ago. This is a national trend as large corporations purchase smaller ones and move the HQ to NYC, Chicago, etc.


What is more important is homegrown businesses and a better quality of life. Birmingham had Frank Stitt restaurants 15 years ago. Now they have some great places, new bars and a better quality of life. More corporate presence does not always equal a better quality of life. Lafayette is a great city here, but their reliance on one industry is going to really hurt.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116092 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:06 pm to
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without pricing out residents


Inevitable. Look at Brooklyn, Queens, parts of DC and now NOLA. Move out if you can't afford it.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:09 pm to
No major jobs have come to Birmingham and the only true improvements have been to the downtown area

I assume government hopes that having a thriving city center will attract business but my concern is those will continue to be white collar positions that won't benefit the majority of residents

Google is coming to the state and smaller auto manufactures are expanding but there's been no major job employer come to the Birmingham area in at least the last 20 years. That's a big issue. The city center will be a bubble surrounded by poverty, blight, and crime. Whatever gains that are made wont be sustainable as a result.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:17 pm to
Gentrification is happening but honestly it is much less than I expected would happen after the rest of the nation flooded New Orleans (and Louisiana) with billions of dollars in recovery money. Many of the projects that nola homers tout are not really that impressive when compared to urban redevelopment that is going on in many other cities. I enjoy NOLA but the ROI has been dismal and I really hate to see what the city will be like if the rest of the nation stops subsidizing its culcha.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9924 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

The changing tastes are evident in housing statistics, according to Ragas. Starting in 2008, with a noticeable uptick in 2010,

Isn't 2010 the time when Road Home money expired?
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

Many of the projects that nola homers tout are not really that impressive


Actually they are, as much as you don't want them to be.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:28 pm to
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Isn't 2010 the time when Road Home money expired?



They're still working to get all he money to the people who applied. I don't think they accept new applicants though. They've handed out $9 billion so far and that's just one of many federal programs for recovery.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58107 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:29 pm to
Which exact projects do you think are ba ROI? Can you list the funding and return numbers etc?
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