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re: The Gentrification of New Orleans
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:03 pm to rocket31
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:03 pm to rocket31
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when, if ever, do you see the lower 9th gentrifying?
Lower 9 was never the worst hood in town. Central City and the area around the Magnolia and old St Thomas projects have always been worse. The Bywater is right there and even Arabi is experiencing gentrification.
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:05 pm to notiger1997
I'm in New Orleans 5-8 days a month, I'm aware good things are happening. I am just saying there's a long road ahead until the city is even to pre-Katrina levels when it comes to economic significance let alone the 70s-80s.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:05 pm to undecided
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Gentrification of New Orleans
I'm loving it and hating it, such is life.
People tore up the small homes and doubles when the white flight happened. Now that they have torn up the burbs where the whites moved to they want something new to tear up. Good luck with that at the prices homes in most all parts of the inner city are going for.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:06 pm to undecided
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Housing advocates are increasingly worried the future of New Orleans might be one where, unless the city undertakes some policy changes, the working poor will no longer have a place in the neighborhoods they used to call home.
Gentrification is not a bad thing. Property values and quality of life improves. Those who work but can't afford the new values, move a little further out. In doing so, they are actually upgrading that part of town - and eventually those values increase because of a new more affluent demographic.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:09 pm to undecided
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Baratunde @baratunde "No one ever moved to New Orleans to watch a middle-aged white guy practice law." #NOLA #Gentrification
Yeah, cause they were definitely here for murders, drugs, and run down shantys
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:10 pm to NIH
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horrid public schools
4 of the top 5 public schools in the state are in the NOLA area. Only one from outside is LSMAS.
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NOLA has white folk moving in and new restaurants and bars but the city in 2015 does not carry near the same economic or national importance that it did until the oil bust in the 80s.
Forbes says you are wrong.
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New massive healthcare options coming as well for jobs. I meet new young people almost every weekend who have moved here from NYC, Chicago, St Louis etc...
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:12 pm to Supermoto Tiger
Get the frick with your logical argument based on economic facts!
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:13 pm to glassman
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glassman
Some one gets it.
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I meet new young people almost every weekend who have moved here from NYC, Chicago, St Louis etc...
Almost too many.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:14 pm to fightin tigers
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quote: Why is gentrification bad? Are we supposed to want a city that looks like a shite hole? The first level of gentrification is good. Where houses and rent are cheap. When it progresses, rent goes up and those that did the inital gentrification are mad they can no longer afford what they started. They do not care that they screwed over the people before them by raising prices, but they will still bitch. ETA: they should have bought the houses when they were cheap as shite, but didn't want to invest in the neighborhood with actual dollars, just culture. This post was edited on 8/3 at 4:30 pm
You just nailed it. Right on.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:14 pm to glassman
The top end is good, cool
Would most folk here send their kids to the average public school in NOLA? Probably not
Nola's population has nearly doubled since 2007 it's not surprising there are more college graduates around and less poor people. Lots of poor people never had the money to make it back from Houston, Baton Rouge, Atlanta, etc. New Orleans is whiter and more affluent than before Katrina, but the economy is still too dependent on tourism. Having a metro of 1.2 million people and the headquarters of 12 public companies is embarrassing.
Would most folk here send their kids to the average public school in NOLA? Probably not
Nola's population has nearly doubled since 2007 it's not surprising there are more college graduates around and less poor people. Lots of poor people never had the money to make it back from Houston, Baton Rouge, Atlanta, etc. New Orleans is whiter and more affluent than before Katrina, but the economy is still too dependent on tourism. Having a metro of 1.2 million people and the headquarters of 12 public companies is embarrassing.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:17 pm to NIH
Economic strength compared to the pre 80s oil bust, you are correct it is not there.
Compare to pre Katrina the city is much better shape.
Compare to pre Katrina the city is much better shape.
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The NOLA—locals’ preferred nickname—metropolitan statistical area’s real gross domestic product (GDP) grew an average 3.9 percent a year from 2008 through 2011, according to the most recent data available from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. During the same period, U.S. GDP expanded less than 1 percent a year, and no other southeastern metro area topped 2 percent.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:18 pm to NIH
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The top end is good, cool
It is getting better.
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Would most folk here send their kids to the average public school in NOLA? Probably not
We will see in 5 years or so. Still some really good options on the catholic school side that aren't outrageously expensive. Ben Franklin and Lusher are the two best public schools in the state and they are hurting enrollment at places like Newman, Country Day, McGhee's and Sacred Heart. Unheard of before Katrina.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:20 pm to TigerintheNO
So there are less poor people?
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:21 pm to glassman
The next mayoral election will be a watershed moment in New Orleans history.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:22 pm to NIH
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70s-80s.
So long ago and with a higher crime rate. The port is still the engine, not tourism. I have thought about leaving many times in my life. I wouldn't even consider it now. Well, not for economic reasons.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:23 pm to NIH
Yes, as someone else posted, they can't afford to live here anymore.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:24 pm to NIH
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NIH
Crime might have something to do with that, thoughts?
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:25 pm to undecided
Nola's demographics/crime stats haven't changed much as most of the ghetto trash being pushed out are still staying within the city limits (Nola East and Algiers).
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:25 pm to NIH
The flip side is that there has been some progress. In the last few years, GE set up a corporate information technology office here (citing among other things Quality of Life, which should piss off some NOLA haters), Chiquita moved there shipping operations to the Port of NO and International Shipping Corp announced last year that they're also relocating operations (back) to New Orleans.
The two departures that sting, for me, are Popeyes and Freeport McMoRan moving their corporate offices elsewhere.
My hope for this city, economy-wise, is that ONE major corporate giant is going to move their base here and put up a new skyscraper that will change the skyline forever. I can dream.
The two departures that sting, for me, are Popeyes and Freeport McMoRan moving their corporate offices elsewhere.
My hope for this city, economy-wise, is that ONE major corporate giant is going to move their base here and put up a new skyscraper that will change the skyline forever. I can dream.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:27 pm to NIH
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The next mayoral election will be a watershed moment in New Orleans history.
We say that a lot, but when has a leader really meant a difference? Very few and those that promote change in this state are almost universally one termers. We are the original socialist state and always will be. We have a complete whacko right wing nut job as our Governor, but make no mistake. We are as liberal as it gets.
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