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re: The Gentrification of New Orleans

Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:32 pm to
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Actually they are, as much as you don't want them to be.



They're impressive if you're from Baton Rouge or Bunkie. Please list all he projects that have actually happened and tell me how it would impress anyone from Dallas, Houston, Austin, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Philadelphia, Miami, Minneapolis, etc. Even cities like Sacramento, SLC, Tampa, and Orlando have some nice projects in the works, so its not something that is unusual. Urban redevelopment, medical centers, and pie-in-the-sky mix-used developments are all in right now.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11266 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:33 pm to
I enjoy that the times pic reporter is covering the tax sales putting thousands of blighted houses and vacant lots (many owing tens of thousands in taxes) back into commerce as a negative (gentrification hurts the working man!) instead of a positive for communities (both in safety and tax base).... His reason given on his Facebook- cause he finds it more interesting.

Heaven forbid urban neighborhoods get the kind of government action that makes them safe for the middle class and tax revenue to create the infrastructure for things like public transit that can reliably reach the more outlying areas
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116088 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:46 pm to
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Isn't 2010 the time when Road Home money expired?


Road Home has zero to do with NOLA now. Zero. Ghettos from 2012 now have soon to be James Beard nominated restaurants. Keep hating people. Enjoy your HOA's that don't allow a boat or basketball goal from the street. In Uptown NOLA you can do that from your 1.5 million dollar house. Park your boat out front and no one gives a frick.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:54 pm to
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Enjoy your HOA's that don't allow a boat or basketball goal from the street. In Uptown NOLA you can do that from your 1.5 million dollar house. Park your boat out front and no one gives a frick.


Saves a lot on storage to say the least. It's all about how you store it, trashy or like you would or like you would hope your neighbor would.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Gentrification is happening but honestly it is much less than I expected would happen after the rest of the nation flooded New Orleans (and Louisiana) with billions of dollars in recovery money. Many of the projects that nola homers tout are not really that impressive when compared to urban redevelopment that is going on in many other cities. I enjoy NOLA but the ROI has been dismal and I really hate to see what the city will be like if the rest of the nation stops subsidizing its culcha.



First, every major city gets huge subsidies. Second, New Orleans was in a unique position after the storm because the feds were responsible for poor levee construction and a drainage system that caused subsidence. And that's to say nothing of the handling of the Mississippi that has eroded the natural storm barriers.

Of course, the city leadership sucked too. In any case, Katrina could have been completely avoided. Now, the feds have to pay up.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:04 pm to
Don't argue with these negative assholes, it's useless.

I'm happy living in NOLA (although I can't park my boat in my front yard )
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:06 pm to
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tell me how it would impress anyone from Dallas, Houston, Austin, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Philadelphia, Miami, Minneapolis, etc. Even cities like Sacramento, SLC, Tampa, and Orlando


Ok so every one of the cities you mentioned is AT LEAST double the size of New Orleans (talking about metropolitan areas), except for Salt Lake City. So you're not comparing apples to apples.

But that you mentioned it, I hung out this weekend with some people from the Dallas area (Lewisville) who come down a couple of times a year. And as a matter of fact, we all had a conversation about how impressive the stuff going on in N.O. was. Specifically, what was mentioned was the hospital district, streetcar expansion, and the redevelopment of downtown as a nightlife and residential destination.

Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:08 pm to
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I've seen Baton Rouge get all the essence after Katrina



FIFY
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:21 pm to
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When it progresses, rent goes up and those that did the inital gentrification are mad they can no longer afford what they started.



So the people renting from the homeowners are turning the areas around? That makes no sense, they aren't contributing to the area (tax dollars, investing in the area, etc). Nobody should be against gentrification. If you're a renter than you aren't really responsible for the area growing and thriving. Every homeowner, ie the investors, should LOVE gentrification. This whole thing is retarded.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55217 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:34 pm to
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I thought Houston got all the essence after Katrina




This statement has gotten many posters banned
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116088 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:58 pm to
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(although I can't park my boat in my front yard )


why not? Can you paint your house any color you want. I like K&B purple..
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76171 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:00 pm to
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Enjoy your HOA's that don't allow a boat or basketball goal from the street. In Uptown NOLA you can do that from your 1.5 million dollar house. Park your boat out front and no one gives a frick.

Don't even try to argue that uptown is convenient for parking or anything else. You can love uptown but for god sakes it's a miserable place to drive and park, esp when the property costs $1.5M.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:04 pm to
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and a better quality of life.


New Orleans has regular boil alerts. Don't speak of quality of life in an argument like this.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:17 pm to
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Don't even try to argue that uptown is convenient for parking or anything else. You can love uptown but for god sakes it's a miserable place to drive and park, esp when the property costs $1.5M.



The potholes are the worst part. Parking really isn't that big of a deal.

And what kind of $1.5 million Uptown home doesn't have off-street parking?
Posted by LSUNO
the NO
Member since Jan 2007
862 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:31 pm to
Gentrification may be the stupidest liberal shite ever.

I'll be specific.
St. Roch was a white NO neighborhood.
Then it went black.
More white people are moving in.

How is that gentrification? It's returning to what it originally was.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:33 pm to
Ding ding ding
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:34 pm to
Apparently it adds to the liberals terrible burden of white guilt to visit a city that isn't overrun by degredation and violent crime.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116088 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:38 pm to
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New Orleans has regular boil alerts.


bullshite. The last one was a joke. I took 3 showers and drank from the tap. No issues and haven't heard of one from anyone else. Can you walk to 14 really good places to eat, 4 bars, a dry cleaner, a specialty butcher shop, two groceries, 3 bakeries, hardware store, barber shop, two independent bookstores, a men's clothing store, two vets, a pharmacy and like 5 women's clothing stores? All within 5 minutes? That is called quality of life. If I didn't go watch soccer on the weekends, my truck would never move on the weekends.
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:46 pm to
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If you're a renter than you aren't really responsible for the area growing and thriving.


Careful, you might hurt a bleeding heart Bywater's feelings. Do you know how much the people currently in the lower 9th would LOVE some gentrification? But it's gauche to the liberal yankees. To be perfectly blunt, they prefer to see black people in squalor than see a functional city. It's more "authentic" that way.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:17 am to
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Can you walk to 14 really good places to eat, 4 bars, a dry cleaner, a specialty butcher shop, two groceries, 3 bakeries, hardware store, barber shop, two independent bookstores, a men's clothing store, two vets, a pharmacy and like 5 women's clothing stores? All within 5 minutes? That is called quality of life. If I didn't go watch soccer on the weekends, my truck would never move on the weekends.


I lived near walking distance of downtown Lafayette until June so I had access to most of that on a smaller scale. That isn't quality of life, though. That's being in a convenient location. Quality of life is not having to worry about wandering into the wrong block, having a multitude of options for schools whether that's private or public, good city infrastructure, a robust economy full of jobs, functioning government, etc.

This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 12:18 am
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