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re: ok...I get it now..SCREW HOAs!!

Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:10 am to
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33971 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:10 am to
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Yeah, until someone with new money moves in and paints their house purple.

Money doesn’t equate to class or taste
someone painting their house purple isn't going to lower my property values
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11428 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:10 am to
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yeah I would suggest maybe a gated fence at entry (for car traffic), but its stupid to me that they would require you to fence in your back yard if you do not want it done


We already have one of those. If the money is to update that ok...but again, this was not explained. It was called a perimeter fence. End of explanation. No one in our neighborhood what in the actual frick they are spending money on.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37921 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:11 am to
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Most are pissed that they have to pay for fence after they paid for a fence themselves.


It will be interesting to find out what prompted the proposal of a neighborhood border in the first place. And a 6% dues increase rather than a special assessment for a single project is a little suspicious.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16646 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:12 am to
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How? I thought they had a guard 24/7


There are two gates, the back gate has been broken multiple times and people have reported that they have seen vehicles waiting then going in through the exit gate as someone is driving out. There used to be a spike strip that prevented that but it malfunctioned last year and punctured a bunch of residents' tires as they exited that gate. No more spike strip now. Plus the new construction next to the subdivision has made it easy to walk in from the adjacent streets.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:15 am to
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And a 6% dues increase rather than a special assessment for a single project is a little suspicious.


I was thinking the same thing.
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1300 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:21 am to
I’m not saying I’m for HOAs and all the shenanigans the can come with sometimes, but I do wonder why people complain about HOAs when they knew before buying their home/property that was in fact a neighborhood with an HOA.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14090 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:23 am to
10-4, been a long time since I've been out that way. And only been to ST a few times - they don't allow my kind there.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:25 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67079 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:29 am to
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Plexi glass fence.

Problem solved


Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37921 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:29 am to
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I’m not saying I’m for HOAs and all the shenanigans the can come with sometimes, but I do wonder why people complain about HOAs when they knew before buying their home/property that was in fact a neighborhood with an HOA.


It can start out with reasonable rules/bylaws that everyone agrees with and turn contentious/irritating over time. All it takes is a few jackasses with more free time than others to ruin it.

We're actually having the opposite problem in our neighborhood. Apathy is contagious when it comes to home maintenance.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21702 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:31 am to
Tell them it's a complete waste of money and that mexicans have ladders anyway.
Posted by Kcprogguitar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2014
889 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:32 am to
First off, the 6% increase is dubious. Items like a fence are a one time capital expenditure. Next, as an association member demand to see the bids taken to build the fence. Also, check to see if there’s an easement clause in your purchase contract, if there is, you’re probably hosed as to wether they can or can’t. Demand an answer as to the continuing expense.

If you’re determined to fight this, get an attorney and demand the bylaws of the HOA and the minutes of any meetings. Do not underestimate the power that a letter with a law firms header on it can have.

I know you’re going to hate the next sentence. If you don’t want this shite to happen, get elected to the HOA’s board. If you sit back, it’s on you now.

Some HOA’s are good. They can force homeowners to keep up their property and to forbid things like parking dump trucks in front of houses.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32721 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:32 am to
Don't these things, including fee increases, have to be noted on by the residents?

Did your neighborhood vote for this?
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13484 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:39 am to
Despite others being upset for different reasons it sounds like you need to use that and get proactive to stop it. Take the lead.

Scott, do us a favor and bump/add a pic of the fence when it's done.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4970 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:40 am to
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The shite thing is no one knows anything about this fence.


Somebody knows something. Hoa have bylaws and rules. You need to get involved to get a better understanding of what is being proposed. If you dont like it drum up support for your side from your neighbors.

I live in a decent sized HOA with around 500 homes. I'm always amazed so many people in my hood bitch about the HOA but at the HOA meetings me, about 5 other residents, and the hoa board are all that show up. How can you agree to trade some property rights away to live in a HOA and not be part of the decisions that are made? How do you say screw HOA's and not try to understand what they are trying to accomplish.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2691 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:42 am to
Was there a vote on the issue? If so, where were you when the vote happened? What do your Declarations say about the HOA's power to undertake such an action without a vote? Either they did not follow procedure or you have not been paying attention. Most HOA members are completely uninvolved and dont attend the meetings. If this is you, don't be surprised when stupid shite happens.

Also, don't live in an HOA if you don't like stupid people making yo do stupid shite.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:44 am to
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My house has an open backyard which opens up to woods. The view from the windows and the patio was a huge part of the reason we bought this house. Now they want ME to pay THEM to obstruct my view.... frick off!


What does the HOA contract that you signed say about this action?
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11428 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:45 am to
So I think I may have just found my next move need be. I read through our covant and there is a clause that states a quorum needs to be held regarding any actions that fall under clause 3 (the clause that allows them to raise the dues by 6%). It states that a notice about the meeting regarding this action has to precede a 30 day notice informing the residents of the meeting and the action. There has to be a 60% representation for this to be considered a quorum.

None of this happened.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56567 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:47 am to
What are you drinking with those fat fingers? Pickled garden snake?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59886 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:53 am to
Sounds like you got em by the short and curlies
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4970 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 10:59 am to
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None of this happened.


There's your move. If they didn't follow the agreement and have a proper vote, have a Quorum, and they didn't provide notice of the meeting then they cant do shite per the bylaws. Definitely get a copy of the minutes from the HOA meetings and take the time to read thru sections when they discussed the fence.

I wouldn't abandon drumming up neighbor support for your side. The numbers will help you. Maybe put together a petition to present to the board.

As another poster said having a lawyer put together the info about them not following bylaw procedure would be very effective.


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