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So let's talk about The Beatles
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:46 pm
I see where they are called the most influential pop/rock group of all-time and yet I have friends who claim The Beach Boys are far more influential. I do not hold the latter opinion but what are some of the main arguments to prove the former?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:47 pm to RollTide1987
3 pages (major, on a board like this).
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:54 pm to RollTide1987
The Beatles were the most popular band of all time.
Beach Boys>Beatles tho :fact:
Beach Boys>Beatles tho :fact:
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:55 pm to RollTide1987
played at parties
listened to on ski trips
somebody link all my classic essays on why the Beatles were more influential than Zep. I don't feel like retyping them.
Beach Boys are great too BTW
listened to on ski trips
somebody link all my classic essays on why the Beatles were more influential than Zep. I don't feel like retyping them.
Beach Boys are great too BTW
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:00 pm to Kafka
20 year old American chicks listen to the Beatles on the reg (in my small sample of reference of course). No Beach Boys.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:02 pm to Dandy Lion
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20 year old American chicks listen to the Beatles on the reg (in my small sample of reference of course)
quote:you should play some for 'em
No Beach Boys
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:18 pm to CaptainPanic
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The Beatles were the most popular band of all time.
I was old enough to remember Beatle Mania- no young person today will ever understand. The Beatles changed EVERYTHING. A lot of singers were no longer relevant because the Beatles pushed them out of the charts. I went to see Help! at the show- girls screamed the entire time through the film! But they were not just some teen idols- they changed along with their audience, stayed in the forefront of music. The Beatles had kids picking up a guitar everyone wanted to be a Beatle. Sgt. Pepper? Talk about shaking up the rock world!
I laugh when people talk about 'Queen' or 'Michael Jackson' being the ultimate superstars...that is a joke! There was the Beatles & Elvis- nothing else will ever come close in the last 60 years of music and how it affected our culture. Bob Dylan too, but more so just in the rock world. Again, younger kids will never know what it was like- I feel sorry for them. You Tube and Pandora may expose a lot of groups, but there was nothing like just buying an album. Shame that radio today is just rap/hip-hop crap, RnB pop crap, watered down alternative crap and same old, same old, commercialized so-called classic rock, which is certainly not classic in my book & I grew up in the 60's onward. But to get back on track, the Beatles were always on the radio & on the charts. Hell, my 93 year old dad grew up in the Big Band era, yet he still loves the Beatles and appreciates their song writing abilities. Here in Houston, we even had a station playing nothing but Beatles music in the early 80's- remember, this was decades before XM radio. Only the Beatles could have pulled that off.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:41 pm to RollTide1987
Musically far ahead of their time. The Lennon McCartney songwriting machine helped as well.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:11 pm to RollTide1987
The Beatles started out playing poppy, bubble-gum rock and roll. About three years later, they recorded "Eleanor Rigby." And that's all one really needs to know about the greatness of the Beatles. The Beach Boys, as good as they were, never had an "Eleanor Rigby."
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:38 pm to RollTide1987
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and yet I have friends who claim The Beach Boys are far more influential
You have some dumb friends.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:39 pm to Kafka
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the Beatles were more influential than Zep.
Anybody that would argue against that is dumb too.
Led Zeppelin is great too BTW.
Beach Boys don't suck either. Was grooving some Pet Sounds earlier tonight, by happenstance.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:41 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:20 year old American chicks have the best taste in music
20 year old American chicks listen to the Beatles on the reg (in my small sample of reference of course). No B
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:49 am to Sayre
quote:I love both bands, but to say the Beach Boys are more influential sounds like the "ironic" response. Nirvana is the only thing I could think of that compares to what the Beatles did in my lifetime. Obviously I'm not comparing Nirvana's impact to the Beatles, but as far as music/cultural change in music, it's probably the only thing that comes close.
and yet I have friends who claim The Beach Boys are far more influential
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:18 am to RollTide1987
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I see where they are called the most influential pop/rock group of all-time and yet I have friends who claim The Beach Boys are far more influential.
The massive success of the Beatles in leading the british invasion overshadows their American precursors - you can almost point to the Beach Boys as the "American" Beatles - and, further, the Beach Boys were big, first.
If you think back to the classic rock and roll period - even the early "pre" rock antecedents - you had black blues and R&B artists, some with strong jazz backgrounds, picking up the tempo (and I'm thinking of Fats, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, here, among others), Elvis, Perkins, Bill Haley, Buddy Holly - and even if they were associated with a band (Bill Haley's "Comets" and Holly's "Crickets"), there was this strong "front man" persona. The Beach Boys were a very, very early example of a self-contained band that worked, primarily, on albums and actively moved away from the singles format.
And that became the template for the 1960s and 1970s - self-contained bands that did not have extensive horn sections (although soul, funk and some rock acts of the 70s brought that back, some - EWF and Chicago, notably, had huge footprints) or other baggage like that, and, more importantly, wrote their own songs (many of the early rock acts and pop singing groups performed, primarily, songs written by others).
And your early bands that had success with this organizational structure were the Beach Boys (American) and The Beatles (UK).
But, Brian Wilson, particularly, is one of the most influential musicians of all time. Virtually every band that came after them - and made albums, pointed to Pet Sounds (1966). Hard to argue with that as being quite influential, particularly internationally for the up and coming British Invasion acts.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:22 am to Fontainebleau Dr.
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The Beach Boys, as good as they were, never had an "Eleanor Rigby."
And some of us are thankful for that.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:54 am to CaptainPanic
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Beach Boys>Beatles tho :fact:
The Beach Boys couldn't and still can't hold John or Paul's jock strap.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:00 am to Fontainebleau Dr.
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The Beatles started out playing poppy, bubble-gum rock and roll. About three years later, they recorded "Eleanor Rigby." And that's all one really needs to know about the greatness of the Beatles. The Beach Boys, as good as they were, never had an "Eleanor Rigby."
I was watching the documentary Hotel California, great take on the LA folk and country rock scene of the '60s and '70s, and oddly enough David Crosby chose to single out "Paperback Writer" as his standard for songwriting.
He said something to the effect of how agitated he was by the fact that he would never be able to write a song that good.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:08 am to saint amant steve
I like the Beach Boys more than the Beatles, but I can't say the Beach Boys were more influential than the Beatles. Two different categories imo. I don't think the Beach Boys were nearly as consistent, but I don't think the Beatles ever made a song better than Good Vibrations or a better album than Pet Sounds.
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