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re: Update: Kaepernick won't settle for less than $20 mill

Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119100 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:54 pm to
Let him walk.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31898 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 8:08 pm to
It's mind-boggling to me that anyone would even consider giving Kaepernick $15 million, much less 20. He's not a great quarterback by any means, especially as teams get better at defending the run.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 9:53 pm to
I like a quarterback that doesn't look to the first option only.

I think Kaep is gifted athletically, but he's not a very good quarterback.

Quarterbacks I'd take over Kaep:

Manning
Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Rivers
Big Ben
Romo
Ryan
Stafford
Luck
Wilson
Eli
Newton

Possibly:
Flacco
Cutler

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84839 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

I like a quarterback that doesn't look to the first option only.


You don't really know what you're talking about. He has has often looked past his first option and reads defenses well. He does have periods where he regresses and doesn't look past his first read but he has improved a great deal on that over just 22 career starts.

if he can continue to improve he will definitely be worth the money. As of right now i'd give him a 3 year deal for about 28-30 million with 10 guaranteed.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 10:02 pm to
Your QB is worth every penny of that and more

I'm very happy for you
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 10:09 pm to



You're the guy that struggled to mention Brees as a top 30 all time quarterback.


Look it's your opinion and that's fine, I just call it how I see it.

The 49ers are a great team, but they are built from their offensive and defensive lines. They also have a hell of a coach, despite the fact that he's an arrogant douche. He turned Alex Smith into a decent player. I've seen pretty much every game Kaepernick has played in. He struggles with his reads, and he struggles often. It's not just me saying this either. That has been a big knock on his game.

He regressed this season, just like I predicted he would. Even after the circle jerk because of his performance against Green Bay I was called names for saying he's being incredibly overrated, and that he would take a step back. Looks like I knew what I was talking about though, that he benefits from being on a stacked roster with great offensive/defensive lines, and a phenomenal defense.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/5/14 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

20th in pass attempts.


And Kaep thinks he's worth 20 mil for that? No.

I'd franchise tag him if I were the niners.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71373 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Seattle is in the same boat. I don't think Wilson comes out asking for 20 million like Kaep, but Wilson will pull probably 11-13 million per.



His agent will be in his ear saying, "Flacco is a BUM and he's making THIS MUCH!!".

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47547 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:14 am to
quote:

His agent will be in his ear saying, "Flacco is a BUM and he's making THIS MUCH!!".


THAT...

if you don't pay your good QB when you have one you become Cleveland or Buffalo...
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14958 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

"believes he is a top-five quarterback" and will be perfectly happy to "bet on himself"


Does he think that Top 5 =
31st in Comp %
20th in Yards (32nd in y/game)
8th in Y/att
17th in TDs
11th most sacks

..or is he hoping to play better?


ETA: Stats from ESPN


ETA2: If you add his rushing yards to his passing totals, he moves to 17 or so.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:05 am to
the ravens were idots for paying Flacco that much and it will hurt them in the long run. Paying QB's big money hurts NFL teams. It sells tickets but rarely wins championships
Posted by TigerNutts
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
2612 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:11 am to
That's why Baltimore's move was so dumb. He gave you the SB and you knew the team was rebuilding, and Flacco does NOT sell tickets.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:48 am to
I'd let his arse walk. Guys like Kaep, Newton, and RG3 will never win a SB because they don't have the mental capabilities to do so.

SF should keep their best players and draft a game manager. they will be just fine if they do that.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8625 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I'd let his arse walk. Guys like Kaep, Newton, and RG3 will never win a SB because they don't have the mental capabilities to do so.


I see what you did there!
Posted by Freeloading Hippie
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2013
25 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:42 pm to
OVER RATED!
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33004 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28872 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13926 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

OVER RATED!
Don't quite know how that's possible when he's shite on by everyone as if he's an embarrassment to the position.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:37 pm to
quote:


Does he think that Top 5 =
31st in Comp %
20th in Yards (32nd in y/game)
8th in Y/att
17th in TDs
11th most sacks

..or is he hoping to play better?


ETA: Stats from ESPN


ETA2: If you add his rushing yards to his passing totals, he moves to 17 or so.


Now post Jay Cutler's stats
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

What has Cutler or Romo ever done to make them worth it?


Cutler and romo both make it to the Super Bowl on that niners team

You think kaep wins playoff games in Dallas the last couple years? No

Alex smith brought the niners to the NFC champ game and people were calling him one of the biggest busts in recent memory
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