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Not in the top 5. He'd be in the 6-10 range with Ray Rice, Michael Turner, Deangelo Williams, and Steven Jackson.

I'm amazed at how far off Chris Johnson has fallen. After 2009, people thought he was neck and neck with Peterson as the top back in the NFL, and now he's hovering around the 10 mark.

Teams need to stop giving out maxes and near maxes for every guy who can drop 20 points a game. There are only a handful of guys in the league that truly deserve to be paid max/near max money and those are your top 10-12 overall players.

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Link to said movie?

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Google "The Gangbang Girl #32". You don't even have to watch the video to see that it was clearly filmed there.

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Is this even a serious question?

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You know there are some idiots out there who still think this is even a discussion and it's a damn shame. I can understand little 9-10 year old kids who don't know any better but people over 20 should know better. Hell these guys aren't even the best duo since the turn of the millenium.

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You're a complete joke, you know that right? Pretty much every basketball mind worth a damn would agree with the statements I just made.

But humor me simpleton. If the NBA ended right now and there was never any professional basketball ever played again, where would you rank each player? I need a good laugh tonight.

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Best RB tandem

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Stewart/Williams/Newton

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One of those in your second quote is not like the others.

What if it's a Chinese man who was born, raised, and lived his entire man in China?

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I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but I am so goddamn sick of system this and system that. Every single player in the NFL is some sort of a system player.

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This. Arian Foster is the clear cut second best back in the NFL and the difference between him and Adrian Peterson and barely there.

Lol this is like a week old and either WB or the toy company already stated that that toy had nothing to do with the movie and was just a standalone toy for $$ purposes, just like Ninja Bruce behind it.

Even the Celtics of today situation is different. All of those guys were in their 30s, not the primes of their careers. KG wanted out to any other franchise that was better than Minnesota. Boston came to them with the best offer. Not the same as the Bosh/James situation.

Allen was also traded by the Sonics in a rebuilding effort. Again, not the same as the Bosh/James situation. Their best player right now is Rondo, and he was drafted by the Celtics.

When the Lakers signed Shaq, their roster was decent at best. Still, Shaq was about to entire his prime rather than already being in it. Kobe was drafted the same year, but it's not like he was hyped as a some world beating franchise changer. He was the 13th pick behind such studs as Samaki Walker, Lorenzen Wright, and Kerry Kittles.

Even then, they didn't make the Finals until 4 years in, and the rest of their starting 5 consisted of a 36 year old AC Green (who was basically a lifelong Laker), 32 year old Glen Rice (who came via a March trade and off of an injury), and a 36 year old Ron Harper (who signed as a free agent). Yeah that was the exact same situation. Shaq signed before he entered his prime and Kobe was a 17 year old high school kid. When they won the title, they had Shaq in his prime, Kobe about to enter his prime, and 3 old arse role players as starters.

Yeah real murderer's row there.

Even with the newer Lakers, you are being disingenuous. Kobe was already there, Bynum was drafted by them and really didn't start living up until his potential until this season. They already had Lamar from when they traded Shaq to the Heat a few years prior. So 3 of their 4 title pieces were either drafted by the team or was brought in in an unrelated trade several years prior. So they went out in traded for Gasol who wanted to leave a franchise that made it clear that they were going to go into rebuilding mode anyways. Again, not even the same situation.

None of these situations are in anyway related or similar to what Bosh and James did. I don't really blame Bosh that much for leaving Toronto because they weren't doing much anyways. However, the Cavaliers had no intention of rebuilding and had done everything they could to build around LeBron and did so successful. If their supporting cast was so bad, then why were they able to win 120+ games in the two years before he left? The ydid everything they could for him but he refused to recruit for them. Even worse, he dragged out his "decision" so long that they didn't have a chance to go out and sign any free agents worth a shite to replace him.

And he had plenty of solid role players around him - Williams is a damn solid point, Gibson is/was one of the best three pointer shooters in the league, they had solid big man rotations that featured at various times Shaq, Big Ben, Big Z, Sideshow Bob, Jamison, and even a budding JJ Hickson. Their front court wasn't the best front court in the league, but his last 2-3 years there, it was a top 7-8 one at worst.

They did have some problems at the 2, but they had solid off ball points who could knockw down mid to long range shots on a consistent basis - West, Williams, and Gibson.

So did he ever have a stud elite number 2 player beside him? No. But he did have great supporting casts as a whole and should have accomplished more than a 4 game sweep during his time in Cleveland especially with how absolutely horrible the East was during his time there.