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Bayouguy
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Asik has always had bad hands. The evolution of the league to such small ball has made him basically unplayable in crunch time, and I think his confidence is shot after being benched last year. He's just kind of a dinosaur the way that things in the league are now. If you can't contribute on offense at all, i.e. Sefolosha, Tony Allen, Roberson, etc., it's very difficult to get minutes on a winning team. Those guys are all first team All NBA defense type guys who are still unsigned and will be had on relatively cheap contracts.
You have to discount the future picks. For example, a future 2nd round pick is worth a 3rd round pick this year. Bobby Bethard was famous for trading next year's 1st straight up for a 2nd today.
Also, the draft point chart is outdated by today's standards. Moving from 25 to 11 would cost a 1, 2, and a future 1 AT LEAST. The Saints in 2005 traded a 3rd to move up two spots to draft Jammal Brown. TWO SPOTS, and that was 12 years ago. If I'm trading up 14 spots, especially to draft a QB, that price is borderline prohibitive.
Also, the draft point chart is outdated by today's standards. Moving from 25 to 11 would cost a 1, 2, and a future 1 AT LEAST. The Saints in 2005 traded a 3rd to move up two spots to draft Jammal Brown. TWO SPOTS, and that was 12 years ago. If I'm trading up 14 spots, especially to draft a QB, that price is borderline prohibitive.
re: Are these DEs 3 down DEs?
Posted by Bayouguy on 4/15/17 at 6:59 pm to Rand AlThor
Reddick is a guy who could play WLB in a base D and then lineup on the edge in passing situations kicking someone inside. IMO he helps us in two different spots and would be a great pick between 10-20.
You can draft another true end a bit later in this deep draft - Willis? Lawson? - then on passing downs put ellerbee in at Will, slide reddick to rush the passer and push Jordan inside to rush the passer. I love Reddick on this defense.
We have multiple needs. I love the idea of getting players that can do multiple things. If Peppers is there at 42? play strong safety in the base? WLB in nickel. Cover the slot? effective blitzer? It's all about the coaching staff finding the right places to play these guys.
You can draft another true end a bit later in this deep draft - Willis? Lawson? - then on passing downs put ellerbee in at Will, slide reddick to rush the passer and push Jordan inside to rush the passer. I love Reddick on this defense.
We have multiple needs. I love the idea of getting players that can do multiple things. If Peppers is there at 42? play strong safety in the base? WLB in nickel. Cover the slot? effective blitzer? It's all about the coaching staff finding the right places to play these guys.
Seeing as the saints gave up the fewest yards rushing between the tackles last season I don't understand the point of your question...
Humphrey isn't my favorite, but If we come out of this thing with Humphrey, Cunningham, and Taco???
:nana: :cool: :bow: :cheers: :nana:
:nana: :cool: :bow: :cheers: :nana:
Who's gonna start in base? Tapp? Onyemata?
:banghead:
:banghead:
It's amazing how much ignorant people hate on Ingram. He just averaged 5.1 yards per carry last year, ran for 1000 yards, caught 46 balls and had 10 total TDs - while playing less than 50% of the snaps. Last four years he averaged 4.9, 4.3, 4.6, and 5.1 ypc.
Just let the dude actually play!
LSU homers just can't let the Bama hate go...
Just let the dude actually play!
LSU homers just can't let the Bama hate go...
re: Edge Rusher Comparisons
Posted by Bayouguy on 4/1/17 at 11:06 am to GMoney2600
Sorry "GMoney," but are you insinuating that because I don't waste my time trolling message boards all day I don't know what I'm talking about? I googled pels d league team. Stumbled upon this site that I don't really look at often. Had some time to kill and took a look. No more. No less.
Thanks for your opinion.
Thanks for your opinion.
re: Edge Rusher Comparisons
Posted by Bayouguy on 3/31/17 at 7:31 pm to blueslover
Barnett reminds me a ton of Jarvis Jones. Super productive in college, overmatched physically in the NFL.
I like Willis from Kansas State at 32 if we take a CB at 11.
I like Willis from Kansas State at 32 if we take a CB at 11.
re: Why is Holiday at anything over $20 million so unpalatable?
Posted by Bayouguy on 3/31/17 at 7:19 pm to TigerinATL
Personally I would like to see us sign a real starting PG, bring Jrue off the bench with the 2nd unit when Cousins sits, then use him in our best lineup playing off the ball w/ Cousins and AD.
New PG
Moore
Hill
AD
Cousins
Jrue
Moore
Hill
Small Ball PF (Cunningham-ish)
AD
Finishing lineup of
New PG
Jrue
Hill
AD
Cousins
Of course the Moore/Cunningham/Hill trio could be interchangeable with different players, but I love the idea of staggering the bigs, Jrue running the point with the small ball, switch everything 2nd unit, then him playing off the ball with our best lineup next to a real PG.
The key is finding the right PG. Assuming we can't pry a top 15 PG away from anyone, I honestly would love the idea of a guy like Rubio, who could get the ball to Cousins and Davis in the perfect spots because he's such a great passer. He's also a plus defender, but unfortunately can't shoot a lick. That starting SG (Moore) position would have to upgraded greatly for that to work.
New PG
Moore
Hill
AD
Cousins
Jrue
Moore
Hill
Small Ball PF (Cunningham-ish)
AD
Finishing lineup of
New PG
Jrue
Hill
AD
Cousins
Of course the Moore/Cunningham/Hill trio could be interchangeable with different players, but I love the idea of staggering the bigs, Jrue running the point with the small ball, switch everything 2nd unit, then him playing off the ball with our best lineup next to a real PG.
The key is finding the right PG. Assuming we can't pry a top 15 PG away from anyone, I honestly would love the idea of a guy like Rubio, who could get the ball to Cousins and Davis in the perfect spots because he's such a great passer. He's also a plus defender, but unfortunately can't shoot a lick. That starting SG (Moore) position would have to upgraded greatly for that to work.
re: Pels launching D league team
Posted by Bayouguy on 3/31/17 at 7:10 pm to dtowntiger33
I also like the idea of an IR designation for a player out for the season like in the NFL as well as 15 and 60 day DL to account for call ups from your D League squad
I agree. He sucks.
re: Pels launching D league team
Posted by Bayouguy on 3/31/17 at 7:01 pm to Chad504boy
I would imagine the 11 communities would be:
Baton Rouge
Houma-Thibodaux
Lafayette
Lake Charles
Shreveport
Bossier
Monroe
Jackson
Biloxi-Gulfport
Pensacola (or maybe Jacksonville)
Mobile
All have suitable population, proximity, arena situations that would make sense for the Pels and the DLeague.
My hope for the D-League is that once every team has their own affiliate that they will institute a MLB type model. That is:
1.) NBA draft is expanded to 7 rounds to stock the D League teams
2.) Every player is draftable out of high school
3.) 1st round picks have guaranteed contracts like today. They are slotted in for salary and their drafting teams will have them at the same rules as today.
4.) 2-7 round draft picks will be able to either sign with their teams or go to college. These players will not be draft eligible again for 2 or 3 years.
5) If they sign, their contracts will not be guaranteed and they will only get paid their NBA salary slots if they are with the big club, much like MLB. They will be paid an D-League salary when sent down.
6.) The 2nd or 3rd year players (we'll call it 3, like it is in baseball) will be eligible for the draft again at the end of their 3rd year. The same rules above would apply. They would be able to sign w/ their team, go back to college, or be locked in as a first round pick
7.) Draft and Stash international players would have their rights controlled by the drafting team no matter the round. If they don't sign by their 3rd year, they can re-enter the draft, unless they are a first round pick. In that case they keep those rights until the player signs.
College Basketball: Saved! If you are a high school kid you are in the draft without the threat of burning your eligibility. You don't get drafted in round 1, you have the opportunity to go back to college. Imagine a guy like O'Bryant, Mickey, Big Baby coming out after year 2, getting picked in the 2nd round, and deciding it would be best to go back to school. Better college basketball. If you're Jarrell Martin and you're a 1st round pick, that's great - you have a guaranteed contract for 4 years. If you're a first round pick, you're still making your NBA money even if you are down in the D League. Kids who won't make it in the NBA will get some free education along the way, and will have multiple other opportunities to get there. NBA vets love it because it opens roster spots if these rookies are in the D League developing instead of taking their jobs. Just wins all around. I don't see the negatives.
Baton Rouge
Houma-Thibodaux
Lafayette
Lake Charles
Shreveport
Bossier
Monroe
Jackson
Biloxi-Gulfport
Pensacola (or maybe Jacksonville)
Mobile
All have suitable population, proximity, arena situations that would make sense for the Pels and the DLeague.
My hope for the D-League is that once every team has their own affiliate that they will institute a MLB type model. That is:
1.) NBA draft is expanded to 7 rounds to stock the D League teams
2.) Every player is draftable out of high school
3.) 1st round picks have guaranteed contracts like today. They are slotted in for salary and their drafting teams will have them at the same rules as today.
4.) 2-7 round draft picks will be able to either sign with their teams or go to college. These players will not be draft eligible again for 2 or 3 years.
5) If they sign, their contracts will not be guaranteed and they will only get paid their NBA salary slots if they are with the big club, much like MLB. They will be paid an D-League salary when sent down.
6.) The 2nd or 3rd year players (we'll call it 3, like it is in baseball) will be eligible for the draft again at the end of their 3rd year. The same rules above would apply. They would be able to sign w/ their team, go back to college, or be locked in as a first round pick
7.) Draft and Stash international players would have their rights controlled by the drafting team no matter the round. If they don't sign by their 3rd year, they can re-enter the draft, unless they are a first round pick. In that case they keep those rights until the player signs.
College Basketball: Saved! If you are a high school kid you are in the draft without the threat of burning your eligibility. You don't get drafted in round 1, you have the opportunity to go back to college. Imagine a guy like O'Bryant, Mickey, Big Baby coming out after year 2, getting picked in the 2nd round, and deciding it would be best to go back to school. Better college basketball. If you're Jarrell Martin and you're a 1st round pick, that's great - you have a guaranteed contract for 4 years. If you're a first round pick, you're still making your NBA money even if you are down in the D League. Kids who won't make it in the NBA will get some free education along the way, and will have multiple other opportunities to get there. NBA vets love it because it opens roster spots if these rookies are in the D League developing instead of taking their jobs. Just wins all around. I don't see the negatives.
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