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Warming up to Kelvin Sheppard

Posted by VegasTiger7 on 10/30/25 at 1:14 pm
First, I want to just clarify that Sheppard is not the first choice. Obviously the first calls are to Kiffin, Lanning, etc. But if they don't work out for whatever reason, Sheppard is among the top contenders for a number of reasons.

1. Culture fit. As an alum and Louisiana native, he would have the deep appreciation for the school and state that was missing under Kelly. Retaining/hiring the right coaches like Raymond and Wilson, having alumni around the building, recruiting and retaining in-state players.

2. Because he came up under Dan Campbell in Detroit, he likely will bring that same philosophy of grit, toughness, and physicality that we've been missing. Would focus on building from the trenches and get back to the tough mean nasty teams of the late 2000s.

3. Getting a young coach on the rise makes things far easier financially. Landing Kiffin or Lanning would put you in the same situation you were just in with Kelly. While I'm confident that both of those would work out better, you're going to have to give them a fully guaranteed $100m+ contract and marry yourself financially to them for the next decade. I'll say again, if you can go get the big fish do it, but understand that it'll have massive financial implications and at some point boosters won't want to keep paying these massive buyouts.

4. Along those same lines, Sheppard will get NFL head coach offers soon if he stays on this same trajectory. If you can get him now, he'll never leave for another job. You'll have found your Kirby Smart or Brent Key.
Leaving BR with an ankle bone bruise and coming back with a pulled groin! :cheers:
Flight tracking season fellas! Private jet headed from BR to Oxford tomorrow at 10am. Do with that information what you will!

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I realize how crazy that is to hear, but it's the reality right now. Of course everyone still in that building is going to give their all to win every remaining game, but it's a simple fact that winning games doesn't matter at this point.

ALSO, let's take a look at some stats.

MVB in 10 games last year at Miss St: 54.7% completion percentage, 1886 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTs with a great offensive coach in Lebby calling plays.

Nuss through 8 games this year: 65.9% completion, 1806 yards, 12 TDs, and 5 INTs with Sloan who just got fired.

But yes, continue to tell me MVB is the best option.

re: Does the BK firing save McMahon?

Posted by VegasTiger7 on 10/27/25 at 12:17 pm to
I think he would be safe regardless. Men's basketball just simply isn't a priority at LSU, and as long as the team isn't truly awful there just isn't a ton of motivation to really push for success.

But you're right in that the money aspect doesn't help. We had to give him a comparatively large and lengthy contract for him to take the job with all of the NCAA stuff swirling at the time, so that buyout is still probably larger than the decision makers are comfortable with.
Winning games is in fact not the first priority. What does winning games do for the program other than making fans feel good? You're not competing for a championship. You have no head coach and major change is coming. Winning games doesn't give you anything to build on next year.

Do I want LSU to win every game the rest of the year? Of course! I'll say again that Nuss gives you the best shot to do that. But this is a lost season, and winning does absolutely nothing to move the program forward. Do right by the guys that have done right by you.
Bingo. Look at Elko and how physical aTm looked. I think Brent Key is someone to keep an eye on. GTech looks like a team with the gameplan of making the other team quit.
2 things:

1. Nuss has not been the problem with this team. The guy is responsible for the 2nd best passing season in LSU history, and players do not just randomly "regress" like you're indicating. You don't just forget how to throw a 10 yard out or read a defense. The issue has been awful o-line play and a refusal to game plan around that reality. Whoever is calling plays next would be smart to do what Sloan couldn't/wouldn't. Also, completing a few passes in garbage time against an FCS team and A&M's backups doesn't give me faith that MVB is the future. Nuss is objectively the most talented QB on the roster and gives you the best chance to win.

2. With Kelly gone, the season is now lost. You're not going to the playoff, and whatever bowl game you'll go to is almost completely meaningless. The most important thing now is developing young guys while also doing right by the veterans and letting them put out good tape for the draft. Benching Nuss would be the ultimate slap in the face to a guy that has sacrificed so much for the program. Rode the bench for 3 years and waiting for his turn rather than transferring and being a starter, and then passed up on millions in last year's draft for a chance to come back and win a championship. Didn't work out that way, but you owe it to him to stick with him.
One of the main reasons that the Kelly era failed was that he never truly ingratiated himself with the state of Louisiana. In my opinion, Kelly didn't truly value and recognize the significance of being the head coach at LSU, and just wanted to be coach at a big time SEC program. Point being, he tried to do things his way at every step without consulting the people that know the state. Telling Corey Raymond and Tommy Moffitt to kick rocks, hiring Polian to run personnel, flying to the west coast to recruit 3 star DBs, the list could go on. If the next coach is going to be successful, he'll recognize that he can't completely build it in his own image and value input of those that know how things run here.

That said, I think a big indicator of success could be whether or not Tyrann Mathieu has a position on staff. I'm not saying make him the DC, but the guy certainly has the football knowledge to be a good addition to the staff and has publicly said he wants to get into coaching. Most importantly, the guy cares about the three letters across the chest. He wants LSU to succeed above all else, and doesn't just want to be a successful coach.

Not saying the next coach won't be a success if he doesn't have Honey Badger on staff, but I think those types of moves will determine how it goes.

Realistic Next Steps

Posted by VegasTiger7 on 10/26/25 at 7:22 pm
News just broke so now it's time to turn the page. This is the most attractive job available in this cycle, so you'll presumably have your pick of who's available. The advantage here is the dirt. No state pumps out more NFL talent per capita than Louisiana, so if you can lock down the state and go grab a couple big time recruits from around the country you'll always have plenty of talent.

However, it's not the perfect job. It remains to be seen if the next coach will have real NIL support. Boosters just ponied up $20M for this roster and look how that turned out. Not to mention the checks they'll have to write for coaches. Another thing to think about is the fanbase. When it's going good, there's no better place to be head coach. However, look at how this place chewed up and spit Kelly out in under 4 years. That will turn some coaches off.

With all that said, what are the best, most realistic candidates?

Personally, I'm done with going after the big fish. My vote would be a young, hungry option that has done it at a lower level or at the coordinator level that is ready for a jump up in quality. Some exceptions to this are Kiffin and Lanning. I think Kiffin is content to stay in Oxford because of that program's low expectations and the lifestyle there. Conversely, I would be shocked if Lanning decided to walk away from the pile of Nike money.

Rhett Lashlee, like Lanning, is a very interesting option but may not want to walk away from the immense NIL budget. My personal front runner would be John Sumrall. Already in state and has completely revived Tulane. Has relationships with HS coaches already and seems to "get" Louisiana.

Long read but MAN I am jacked up. Very exciting times. Lol
He's definitely been more open to running this year. He's done it a few times but only when it's wide open. I'm sure the torso injury has made him more reluctant to run also. Look for him to test it a little more going forward.
2021 was Coach O's last year, so the program as a whole was a disaster, and 2023 was House's fault. Put up 49 points and lost.

re: Chambliss vs Simmons

Posted by VegasTiger7 on 9/25/25 at 4:09 pm to
Fair but I think it was especially apparent against aTm. Gameplanned all week for Weigman and then got thrown a curveball and couldn't adjust.

re: Chambliss vs Simmons

Posted by VegasTiger7 on 9/25/25 at 3:58 pm to
Chambliss and Simmons are similar players, so even if they use both we should be prepared. Not like last year against aTm where we were prepared for a pocket passer and got surprised by a runner.
Yup. And I've also seen our starting defense only give up 20 combined points through 4 games.
Every book I've seen has Ole Miss -1.5 and almost every national pundit is picking Ole Miss. I know we're all biased on here, but I just can't objectively figure out why Ole Miss is the hot pick.

On defense, Baker is going to throw things at Chambliss that he's never seen on the football field. He's going from high school geometry at D2 directly into multi-variable calculus against this Blake Baker defense. Perkins is impossible to gameplan for because of how many different ways he lines up and how many roles they have him in. Not to mention the ELITE secondary, both Weeks brothers, and a veteran D-line.

On offense, yes we need to play better. Running game needs to show improvement and we can't regress into needing Nuss to throw it 50 times a game to have a shot. But last week showed that it was possible. I know, SELU, but still. I think now that Nuss is healthy, they'll open up the playbook and really unleash this offense.

Finally, home field advantage is real, especially in the SEC, but let's not pretend Vaught is among the elite places to play. This team marched into Clemson while they still believed and cared and passed that test in a tough environment.

Being as objective as I can, I see this being a low scoring game where the defense smothers them and the offense gets the job done. Something like a 24-10 or 28-14. But then again maybe I'm just an optimistic homer.
This is, obviously, a massive stepping stone for the program. Imagine what you’d say if 10 years ago I told you that in the span of 5 years we’d have 2 QBs lift Heisman trophies. For years, LSU had been a graveyard of former 5 star QBs that never panned out. This changes that. 2019 and Burrow wasn’t an anomaly. It’s what’s possible.

You can now go to every high school kid and transfer in America and say “You can come here and throw to the best WR room in the country while sitting behind an o-line made out of monsters we’ve found within an hour drive of campus, lift Heisman trophies, win championships, and sign first round contracts.”

I expect BK is smart enough to spin all of this like that. Very very exciting time to be a Tiger fan!!