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re: if the SEC expands to 16 teams.....
Posted by subterraneanjack on 5/6/10 at 12:28 pm to SwatMitchell
The SEC will only expand if they can get Texas, and if they can get Texas the SEC will definitely expand.
I think this is the most logical proposal because none of the current teams would have to change divisions.
East:
Clemson
FSU
West:
Texas
Texas A&M
I think this is the most logical proposal because none of the current teams would have to change divisions.
East:
Clemson
FSU
West:
Texas
Texas A&M
re: SEC Expansion
Posted by subterraneanjack on 4/23/10 at 10:23 am to Suntiger
That would leave only 5 football teams in the Big East, not enough to sustain a BCS conference when there will be 16-team conferences out there. The Big East might continue to exist as a basketball conference.
re: SEC Expansion
Posted by subterraneanjack on 4/22/10 at 1:51 pm to seinfeldtiger
This is what I see evolving over the next 4-5 weeks--
• Notre Dame will turn down the Big 10's invitation to join the conference for the second time in 20 years
• Notre Dame will remain independent
• The Big 10 will expand to 16 teams, including Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Rutgers, and two of the following: Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Louisville, and West Virginia.
• Nebraska and Missouri are the top two remaining targets, but Nebraska would have to make a backroom deal with Texas, because Nebraska will not leave the Big 12 conference if Texas doesn't also leave. If Nebraska doesn't join the Big 10, then I expect Connecticut and Missouri to be invited.
• The Big East conference will be dissolved.
• The SEC will expand from 12 to 14 to 16 teams during a multi-year transition.
• Texas and Texas A&M will join the SEC and be put in the Western Division. This will be the first change in the SEC make-up announced.
• The SEC will expand to 16 teams, but the remaining two teams will have to make their case over the next 13 months.
• Those teams to be considered for invitation into the SEC will be two among the following: Oklahoma, Nebraska, Miami, FSU, Clemson, South Florida, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, West Virginia, Memphis, North Carolina, Duke, Baylor, Houston, and Texas Tech.
• I think strong consideration will be given to a) Oklahoma and Nebraska and b) Miami and FSU, however, I think neither scenario will be the final decision. Scenario A would require two of the following to move to the SEC Eastern Division: Auburn, Alabama, Miss State, and Ole Miss. I cannot see Auburn and Alabama move to the East and only playing the new Western Division teams occasionally. I cannot see one team from Alabama and one team from Mississippi moving to the Eastern Division while one team from Alabama and one team from Mississippi remain in the Western Division. Adding Miami and FSU presents both pros and cons. The SEC covets owning the state of Florida, but Vanderbilt made more money in 2009 than either Miami or FSU. I think that is a strong indicator that neither of these teams would flourish in the SEC, at least not immediately.
• I think Clemson will be one of the teams joining the SEC East. There is a natural rivalry with South Carolina, and Clemson already plays Georgia and Auburn frequently. I think it is a natural fit, though not as sexy as Oklahoma, Nebraska, Miami, or FSU.
• The final slot will be very hotly debated. If you don't take a pair of rivals such as Oklahoma/Nebraska, Miami/FSU, North Carolina/Duke, Virginia/Virginia Tech, then the state legislatures are not likely to approve the change. So, for that reason, I think the final team will South Florida, Georgia Tech, Louisville, or possibly Virginia Tech.
• I think South Florida is an intriguing choice. One of the main factors in expansion is increasing the TV market. The Tampa market is one of the fastest growing markets and South Florida has one of the largest student populations in the country. The football team is already decent and the basketball team has been playing in the Big East.
• Georgia Tech used to be in the SEC and departed, and they will not be near the top of the list of invitees, however, the rivalry between Georgia and Georgia Tech is one of the established rivalries in college football. It also makes geographical sense. Adding the Atlanta market (however I doubt Ga Tech has more fans in Atlanta than Georgia), is also a plus.
• Louisville is a natural rival with Kentucky and makes similar sense as Georgia Tech-Georgia does. However, the Louisville football and basketball programs have not shown much consistency lately.
• Virginia Tech is the best football program among the four, they only joined the ACC in the past few years, and the Virginia-Virginia Tech rivalry is not as established as other intra-state rivalries.
• I think if the SEC adds a heavyweight like Texas in the West, then they need to follow suit in the East. My vote goes for Virginia Tech.
• Obviously, this will cause a change in the ACC. While neither Clemson or Virginia Tech are ACC basketball powers, it will change the landscape of football in the ACC. Most likely, the Big East teams not invited to join the Big 10 and SEC will be absorbed by the ACC-- West Virginia and Louisville being the most likely choices, with Cincinnati and Connecticut or both also being considerations.
• The ACC remains a basketball powerhouse conference, possibly adding some of the non-football playing schools remaining from the Big East such as St. John's, Providence, Villanova, Seton Hall, Marquette, etc.
• The Big 12 conference will dissolve with the departure of Texas, Texas A&M, Nebraska, and Missouri.
• The PAC 10 conference will expand to 12 teams, adding BYU and Utah.
• The survivors of the Big 12 and the Mountain West conferences will combine to create a new 12-team BCS conference including Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Boise State, UNLV, and Air Force.
• The WAC will lose Boise State and Louisiana Tech and will gain Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Rice, and Wyoming.
• C-USA will lose Tulane and gain Louisiana Tech, Cincinnati, South Florida, Troy. Louisville is also a possibility.
• The Sun Belt will lose Troy and gain Tulane.
• Notre Dame will turn down the Big 10's invitation to join the conference for the second time in 20 years
• Notre Dame will remain independent
• The Big 10 will expand to 16 teams, including Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Rutgers, and two of the following: Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Louisville, and West Virginia.
• Nebraska and Missouri are the top two remaining targets, but Nebraska would have to make a backroom deal with Texas, because Nebraska will not leave the Big 12 conference if Texas doesn't also leave. If Nebraska doesn't join the Big 10, then I expect Connecticut and Missouri to be invited.
• The Big East conference will be dissolved.
• The SEC will expand from 12 to 14 to 16 teams during a multi-year transition.
• Texas and Texas A&M will join the SEC and be put in the Western Division. This will be the first change in the SEC make-up announced.
• The SEC will expand to 16 teams, but the remaining two teams will have to make their case over the next 13 months.
• Those teams to be considered for invitation into the SEC will be two among the following: Oklahoma, Nebraska, Miami, FSU, Clemson, South Florida, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, West Virginia, Memphis, North Carolina, Duke, Baylor, Houston, and Texas Tech.
• I think strong consideration will be given to a) Oklahoma and Nebraska and b) Miami and FSU, however, I think neither scenario will be the final decision. Scenario A would require two of the following to move to the SEC Eastern Division: Auburn, Alabama, Miss State, and Ole Miss. I cannot see Auburn and Alabama move to the East and only playing the new Western Division teams occasionally. I cannot see one team from Alabama and one team from Mississippi moving to the Eastern Division while one team from Alabama and one team from Mississippi remain in the Western Division. Adding Miami and FSU presents both pros and cons. The SEC covets owning the state of Florida, but Vanderbilt made more money in 2009 than either Miami or FSU. I think that is a strong indicator that neither of these teams would flourish in the SEC, at least not immediately.
• I think Clemson will be one of the teams joining the SEC East. There is a natural rivalry with South Carolina, and Clemson already plays Georgia and Auburn frequently. I think it is a natural fit, though not as sexy as Oklahoma, Nebraska, Miami, or FSU.
• The final slot will be very hotly debated. If you don't take a pair of rivals such as Oklahoma/Nebraska, Miami/FSU, North Carolina/Duke, Virginia/Virginia Tech, then the state legislatures are not likely to approve the change. So, for that reason, I think the final team will South Florida, Georgia Tech, Louisville, or possibly Virginia Tech.
• I think South Florida is an intriguing choice. One of the main factors in expansion is increasing the TV market. The Tampa market is one of the fastest growing markets and South Florida has one of the largest student populations in the country. The football team is already decent and the basketball team has been playing in the Big East.
• Georgia Tech used to be in the SEC and departed, and they will not be near the top of the list of invitees, however, the rivalry between Georgia and Georgia Tech is one of the established rivalries in college football. It also makes geographical sense. Adding the Atlanta market (however I doubt Ga Tech has more fans in Atlanta than Georgia), is also a plus.
• Louisville is a natural rival with Kentucky and makes similar sense as Georgia Tech-Georgia does. However, the Louisville football and basketball programs have not shown much consistency lately.
• Virginia Tech is the best football program among the four, they only joined the ACC in the past few years, and the Virginia-Virginia Tech rivalry is not as established as other intra-state rivalries.
• I think if the SEC adds a heavyweight like Texas in the West, then they need to follow suit in the East. My vote goes for Virginia Tech.
• Obviously, this will cause a change in the ACC. While neither Clemson or Virginia Tech are ACC basketball powers, it will change the landscape of football in the ACC. Most likely, the Big East teams not invited to join the Big 10 and SEC will be absorbed by the ACC-- West Virginia and Louisville being the most likely choices, with Cincinnati and Connecticut or both also being considerations.
• The ACC remains a basketball powerhouse conference, possibly adding some of the non-football playing schools remaining from the Big East such as St. John's, Providence, Villanova, Seton Hall, Marquette, etc.
• The Big 12 conference will dissolve with the departure of Texas, Texas A&M, Nebraska, and Missouri.
• The PAC 10 conference will expand to 12 teams, adding BYU and Utah.
• The survivors of the Big 12 and the Mountain West conferences will combine to create a new 12-team BCS conference including Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Boise State, UNLV, and Air Force.
• The WAC will lose Boise State and Louisiana Tech and will gain Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, Rice, and Wyoming.
• C-USA will lose Tulane and gain Louisiana Tech, Cincinnati, South Florida, Troy. Louisville is also a possibility.
• The Sun Belt will lose Troy and gain Tulane.
re: Auburn vs West Virginia
Posted by subterraneanjack on 10/21/08 at 4:00 pm to AuRob
This will be no 0-0 tie. Both offenses are so bad, there will be multiple turnovers.
Auburn's defense outscores WV's defense 7-6.
Auburn's defense outscores WV's defense 7-6.
re: LSU RB Recruiting
Posted by subterraneanjack on 10/2/08 at 2:54 pm to BackWoodsTiger
Richardson was 100% Bama before the season started. After 5 games, Bama has 4 RBs with at least 2 years of eligibility left that are all playing well (actually, the OL is REALLY playing well).
If Richardson goes to Bama, he is probably 5th string for 2 years. A RB like Richardson wants PT sooner than that. He can't be more than 50-60% Bama now. Unfortunately, LSU has a stockpile of RBs just like Bama. I think Richardson ends up at Florida.
If Richardson goes to Bama, he is probably 5th string for 2 years. A RB like Richardson wants PT sooner than that. He can't be more than 50-60% Bama now. Unfortunately, LSU has a stockpile of RBs just like Bama. I think Richardson ends up at Florida.
re: Jordan Hare Stadium
Posted by subterraneanjack on 7/28/08 at 1:52 pm to LSUTGR76
I've been going to games in JHS for nearly 40 years. Sitting in the upper deck is fine, you can see as long as you're not all the way to the top.
The atmosphere is good and mostly friendly. Try not to get too tanked up before the game or you might run into trouble. The fans will put up with enthusiasm for the opposing team, but drunken jackass behavior will get you removed from the stadium 5 minutes into the first quarter.
The end zone seats aren't that great overall, but the visitor end zone seats are okay because you're close to the team, cheerleaders, band, etc.
Parking is a problem. Expect to walk a mile to the stadium, unless you are arriving before game day. There is free street-side parking in the residential areas, but, again, you're going to walk at least a mile. If you're arriving less than 3 hours before game time, expect to walk a lot further. Previous poster was right, if you want to get out of town quickly, don't park anywhere close to the stadium.
The tailgating is fine, but don't expect much nightlife or first-rate restaurants. There are chain restaurants like McDonald's, Chick-fil-A, Subway, etc on campus. There are better restaurants within driving distance, but you can't eat at those restaurants then walk to the stadium. If you're just going to be there for gameday, then eat a square meal in Montgomery before you get to Auburn and snack the rest of the time.
The atmosphere is good and mostly friendly. Try not to get too tanked up before the game or you might run into trouble. The fans will put up with enthusiasm for the opposing team, but drunken jackass behavior will get you removed from the stadium 5 minutes into the first quarter.
The end zone seats aren't that great overall, but the visitor end zone seats are okay because you're close to the team, cheerleaders, band, etc.
Parking is a problem. Expect to walk a mile to the stadium, unless you are arriving before game day. There is free street-side parking in the residential areas, but, again, you're going to walk at least a mile. If you're arriving less than 3 hours before game time, expect to walk a lot further. Previous poster was right, if you want to get out of town quickly, don't park anywhere close to the stadium.
The tailgating is fine, but don't expect much nightlife or first-rate restaurants. There are chain restaurants like McDonald's, Chick-fil-A, Subway, etc on campus. There are better restaurants within driving distance, but you can't eat at those restaurants then walk to the stadium. If you're just going to be there for gameday, then eat a square meal in Montgomery before you get to Auburn and snack the rest of the time.
re: So how long before Crowton gets offered an HC position?
Posted by subterraneanjack on 7/24/08 at 1:33 pm to lsuxtremist
Crowton won't leave for a 2nd rate team. He will hang around until he gets an offer from an SEC school or some apple job like Jimbo Fisher got where he will soon be the head coach. If LSU wins another title, it will happen sooner rather than later, but I expect he will be on staff for a while so ADs can see how he handle the current LSU QB situation.
re: SEC having own TV station. Should they?
Posted by subterraneanjack on 7/24/08 at 1:28 pm to BUSCH
ALL of the network contracts come up for renewal in spring 2009. There is a lot of buzz that there will be an SEC network.
I think that even if the SEC network didn't carry the top 3-4 football games of the day live, there would be a lot of people watching the replays throughout the week, particularly if it were in HD.
I think basketball and some other sports could use more coverage too. These wouldn't get the same numbers as football, but it would be better than watching the same sports from the ACC, B10, or B12.
Eventually, the SEC network could benefit tremendously if there is addition/attrition in the SEC.
I think that even if the SEC network didn't carry the top 3-4 football games of the day live, there would be a lot of people watching the replays throughout the week, particularly if it were in HD.
I think basketball and some other sports could use more coverage too. These wouldn't get the same numbers as football, but it would be better than watching the same sports from the ACC, B10, or B12.
Eventually, the SEC network could benefit tremendously if there is addition/attrition in the SEC.
re: BAMA listed as possible BCS title winner in 2008??
Posted by subterraneanjack on 7/24/08 at 1:22 pm to 19
Never underestimate the depth of delusion of a Bama fan.
re: The Auburn Game this year:
Posted by subterraneanjack on 7/11/08 at 5:58 pm to dukke v
Anybody thinks this game is going to be easy for anybody associated with either team has never seen an AU-LSU game, at least not in the last decade.
The past two games in Auburn have been the hardest-hitting games I've seen in 40 years of watching college football. I think it literally takes the teams a month to get over all the injuries that come out of this game. I'm not predicting who is going to win, but it will be a nailbiter for 4 quarters.
The past two games in Auburn have been the hardest-hitting games I've seen in 40 years of watching college football. I think it literally takes the teams a month to get over all the injuries that come out of this game. I'm not predicting who is going to win, but it will be a nailbiter for 4 quarters.
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