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No dude. A letdown is losing 24-20 or 21-17. This was not that at all. This was a classic beatdown on both sides of the ball.


We were missing our top 2 run stopping nose tackles against one of the best running teams in the country. We were missing our starting center against one of the best DLs and nose tackles in the country.

I really don’t understand why this surprised anyone. Was it worse than I expected? Sure, but coming off the most physical game we’ll play all year straight into the 2nd most physical game we’ll play all year without 3 key trench players, and having a 1st yr starter who is an 18 yr old QB and down his #1 target….well, that’s a recipe for disaster. And disaster is what happened. So, yes, this was a classic letdown game and against a good, physical team, that means a blowout. If we played Vandy, SC, or AU, it might have meant a close loss.
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You make some good points but I still disagree and I’ll put it this way: To make a 12 team playoff you need to go 10-2. For Alabama, that means win the games you are expected to win and split the competitive games. I think that is a very reasonable expectation.


I understand on the surface why you’d say that, but there is only one team who has consistently been 10-2 or better during the 8 SEC game schedule years…UGA. And they have a 2 time NC winning coach, a talent rich state with no real in state competition for it, and a decade head start building the program prior to all the NIL/Portal changes. I’m not sure even he will be able to keep it up every year in the 9 game SEC years, but he has a much more experienced team than we do to start that run this year. Why do you think Kirby and essentially all coaches want the 24 team playoff?
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(1) look like they care and practiced the prior week


You clearly do not understand college football. This was a classic letdown game. UGA lost at home as a 21 point favorite to AU today. TX lost as a double digit favorite at home to a FL team that got blown out by a bad South Carolina team in the Swamp last week. Our absolute best potential outcome today was a late escape struggle win, and that’s only if we had a coach like Saban.

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2) make a 12 team playoff every year.


You really, really don’t understand college football. No one in the SEC with a 9 game SEC schedule is going to make a 12 team playoffs every year unless they have all of the following: 1) the top 2 highest NIL budgets in the league and top 5 in the country; 2) one of the 3 best coaches in the country; and 3) good injury luck every single year.

We do not have the first 2, have no way to remedy the first one, and have no control over the 3rd.
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don’t get the idea that this is some sort of revelation.


Little Benny, have you read the board today? :casty:
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Congratulations on calling that this would be a bad year?


Rebuilding year. Calling it “Bad” shows the lack of understanding of the new environment.


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Just because we struggled in the early 2000’s doesn’t mean that should be the Alabama standard.

Literally no one suggested we should. If we do, it will be due to ignorant, toxic fans that cause the majority of good coaches to not want to be here. We don’t have the NIL money to be the top job the way we were pre-NIL. Less reason for top coaches to put up with an out of touch fanbase
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don’t get what the point is


Correct, you do not.

The point was stated prior to the season, and has not changed. It’s trying to educate the fanbase, so we don’t have dumb individuals expecting results that can’t happen, which then turns the individual into a toxic ranter at the staff, players, administrators, etc. because of their lack of understanding. Ignorant, toxic fans were a large part of our problems pre-Saban. I’d prefer to not go back to that if possible, but we’re clearly headed there.
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We were never retaining Ty. He turned down more money from Miami than we could have even paid him. We don't have turn down 1st round pick money.


Agree, which means our plan was to not compete for a NC for 2 straight years. We have 1 chance in 2027, before 2028 goes back to no chance (unless we pay up for experience in 2028 or Keelon needs 1 more year of development and actually turns the light on in 2028).
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Development and long term plans are a thing of the past. Half this team will be on another roster next year and we will spend the first 3 games learning everyone's name. So, next year will be the same as last year, the same as this year and so on.


That’s only half true. Ohio State, UGA, and Texas all have rosters and specifically QBs that were recruited in high school and developed. Texas rode the wrong pony at QB, UGA may have as well, and OSU’s just went down to injury (despite beating Indy).

Development can be done and supplemented with portal, but not if you don’t retain your roster and don’t retain your new QB for the 2nd year. We didn’t retain our QB for reasons already discussed, so we started over. We’re playing for 2027 unless we don’t retain Keelon or he gets hurt
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Two pages of meltdowns on this board


Not all two pages, at least one “it’s going exactly as expected” thread in there
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If the coaching staff doesn't have what it takes, why would 2027 be different?


With enough talent and experience, sometimes coaching can be overcome. Chizik, Jimbo Fisher, Ed Oregon all have natties
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Our only options were going to be first year starters. What the frick are you talking about?


And yet, somehow the following programs figured out how to not have back to back 1st year starters at QB:

Texas
UGA
LSU
Ole Miss
Ohio St
Oregon
USC
Indiana
UCLA
Michigan
ND
Miami
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Even lower tier SEC teams didn’t have back to back 1st yr starters: AU, OU, South Carolina, FL, etc


We could have paid Ty to stay, we could have decided to go transfer route every year, but we didn’t. We decided to lose games with a young QB and young OL. I’m not sure why anyone is surprised

No one wanted to listen, but a select few of us told you this was what we signed up for when we decided to go with a first year starter at QB for the 2nd straight year, coupled with the youngest OL in the league and a coaching staff that lacks the daily intensity and attention to detail it takes to avoid multiple letdowns a year in the SEC.

Some of us said we were playing for 2027 before the season started once Simpson went pro, and that 9-3 was our most likely record with 8-4 and 10-2 on the table.

With the massive inexperience on offense and coaching staff deficiencies, together with the uber talented players we have, the range of outcomes each game is pretty wide. We could win out from here, we could beat LSU in Death Valley and drop the Vandy game the next week, or we could lose in Death Valley and lose to AU at home in their Super Bowl due to not stopping the run (and poor coaching preparation/decisions). Literally nothing has changed from expectations since the season started, and it’s playing out exactly as the knowledgeable posters said it would.

Now, back to not posting due to Chicken and the non-Bama moderators.
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On the bright side, 1 run should be plenty to beat Bama on Monday.


Maybe 2. Have to assume we get lucky at some point.
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Ain't nothing going right for Texas.


Other than they get our lineup next game to get right. That will help boost their pitchers confidence
The extension was given for a reason. Think he mainly can’t lose to AU, that’s by far the most important game but especially when you’re teetering on the fan perception meter.

9-3 with a win over AU would be a decent rebuilding season for fans that aren’t idiots. 8-4 is on the table, though, and a loss to AU would cause this board to go nuclear
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Where exactly is Zane going?


Hopefully nowhere. He’s been pitching so long for us that I mistakenly thought he was a senior. Adams and Upchurch is a pretty decent start to a weekend rotation next season, just need to stay healthy and hopefully develop an ace that can sustain 95+ through 6 innings.
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Nope. That cash is going to roster retention because the team is so young. It's the reason the class is so small.


Correct.

It’s also correct that a team that young means it’s a rebuilding year, but that will make posters on this board irrationally angry.
I’d have Adams on a pretty short leash and go to Upchurch or even Heiberger (sp?) if we’re getting down more than 2 runs. No reason to save anyone if we don’t win tomorrow, and it would be nice if Upchurch got some actual CWS experience since I think he’s the only weekend starter returning next year.
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Wow. Bama. That was unexpected.


Said none of the knowledgeable Bama or baseball fans.
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Texas is going to beat Georgia. We’ll be playing UGA tmrw


That probably won’t go well for us, then. I don’t like our chances either way. We honestly aren’t a team that has Omaha caliber players, but we somehow made it to Omaha. Very good season either way