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Woman says her Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out to random contact
Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:42 am
Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:42 am
A Portland family contacted Amazon to investigate after they say a private conversation in their home was recorded by Amazon's Alexa -- the voice-controlled smart speaker -- and that the recorded audio was sent to the phone of a random person in Seattle, who was in the family’s contact list.
"My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to what we're saying," said Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name.
Every room in her family home was wired with the Amazon devices to control her home's heat, lights and security system.
But Danielle said two weeks ago their love for Alexa changed with an alarming phone call. "The person on the other line said, 'unplug your Alexa devices right now,'" she said. "'You're being hacked.'"
That person was one of her husband's employees, calling from Seattle.
"We unplugged all of them and he proceeded to tell us that he had received audio files of recordings from inside our house," she said. "At first, my husband was, like, 'no you didn't!' And the (recipient of the message) said 'You sat there talking about hardwood floors.' And we said, 'oh gosh, you really did hear us.'"
Danielle listened to the conversation when it was sent back to her, and she couldn't believe someone 176 miles away heard it too.
"I felt invaded," she said. "A total privacy invasion. Immediately I said, 'I'm never plugging that device in again, because I can't trust it.'"
Danielle says she unplugged all the devices, and she repeatedly called Amazon. She says an Alexa engineer investigated.
"They said 'our engineers went through your logs, and they saw exactly what you told us, they saw exactly what you said happened, and we're sorry.' He apologized like 15 times in a matter of 30 minutes and he said we really appreciate you bringing this to our attention, this is something we need to fix!"
But Danielle says the engineer did not provide specifics about why it happened, or if it's a widespread issue.
"He told us that the device just guessed what we were saying," she said. Danielle said the device did not audibly advise her it was preparing to send the recording, something it’s programmed to do.
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"My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to what we're saying," said Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name.
Every room in her family home was wired with the Amazon devices to control her home's heat, lights and security system.
But Danielle said two weeks ago their love for Alexa changed with an alarming phone call. "The person on the other line said, 'unplug your Alexa devices right now,'" she said. "'You're being hacked.'"
That person was one of her husband's employees, calling from Seattle.
"We unplugged all of them and he proceeded to tell us that he had received audio files of recordings from inside our house," she said. "At first, my husband was, like, 'no you didn't!' And the (recipient of the message) said 'You sat there talking about hardwood floors.' And we said, 'oh gosh, you really did hear us.'"
Danielle listened to the conversation when it was sent back to her, and she couldn't believe someone 176 miles away heard it too.
"I felt invaded," she said. "A total privacy invasion. Immediately I said, 'I'm never plugging that device in again, because I can't trust it.'"
Danielle says she unplugged all the devices, and she repeatedly called Amazon. She says an Alexa engineer investigated.
"They said 'our engineers went through your logs, and they saw exactly what you told us, they saw exactly what you said happened, and we're sorry.' He apologized like 15 times in a matter of 30 minutes and he said we really appreciate you bringing this to our attention, this is something we need to fix!"
But Danielle says the engineer did not provide specifics about why it happened, or if it's a widespread issue.
"He told us that the device just guessed what we were saying," she said. Danielle said the device did not audibly advise her it was preparing to send the recording, something it’s programmed to do.
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:52 am to t00f
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a private conversation in their home was recorded by Amazon's Alexa
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"The person on the other line said, 'unplug your Alexa devices right now,'" she said. "'You're being hacked.'"
That person was one of her husband's employees, calling from Seattle.

so her husband set alexa to allow access to all his contacts and alexa misunderstood who she wanted to send a voice message to and sent it to this person.
hey dumbass, turn off that feature in alexa if you don't want to be able to send voice texts to everyone in your contact list.
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run crying to the internet for 'likes'.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:55 am to CAD703X
quote:this doesnt sound like that.
lexa misunderstood who she wanted to send a voice message to and sent it to this person.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:17 pm to CAD703X
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run crying to the internet for 'likes'.
LOL, what a fricking stupid thing to say.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:19 pm to t00f
Welcome to 2018, where we pay for wiretaps and put them in our homes, give them a name, and all to be able to turn off the lights or watch tv/listen to music with voice commands.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:21 pm to musick
Well that was the point of me posting it not to trigger any Amazon fan boys.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:21 pm to CarRamrod
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this doesnt sound like that.
That's exactly what it sounds like. My echo randomly chimes in at least twice a month like she thought we were talking to her when we clearly weren't. It probably wouldn't take to much of a misunderstanding/glitch for someone who set Alexa up to message people to have this happen considering how many Alexa devices are out there.
To me the oddity is emailing a voice file to a contact as opposed to executing it like a call or intercom. I wonder if they happened to say a special debugging code phrase that sends voice log to support, but there was a bug in the code and it sent it to a contact.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:32 pm to t00f
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Well that was the point of me posting it not to trigger any Amazon fan boys.

This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:35 pm to TigerinATL
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That's exactly what it sounds like. My echo randomly chimes in at least twice a month like she thought we were talking to her when we clearly weren't. It probably wouldn't take to much of a misunderstanding/glitch for someone who set Alexa up to message people to have this happen considering how many Alexa devices are out there.
this.
my 3yo who only recently was able to get alexa to understand he's saying the word 'alexa' can now 'call' my cellphone during the day when i'm at work.
its adorable and i love that if something were to happen to his mom he has a way to talk to me. there's no way in hell he would be able to locate my wife's cellphone (half the time she doens't know where it is), unlock it, find my name in the contacts and then call the correct number to get me.
i hate amazon for lots of reasons but i do not hate how easy they've made it for my 3yo to get in touch with me no matter where i am.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:36 pm to CAD703X
Hey, like I said. I just thought it was interesting as I am still unsure about firing up all of this automation that reports back.
But then we devolve into the phone/siri discussion.
But then we devolve into the phone/siri discussion.
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:37 pm to t00f
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Hey, like I said. I just thought it was interesting as I am still unsure about firing up all of this automation that reports back.
But then we devolve into the phone/siri discussion.
i hate it for that reason. in order for it to respond when you say a keyword by definition it HAS TO BE LISTENING 24/7
Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:40 pm to CAD703X
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i hate it for that reason. in order for it to respond when you say a keyword by definition it HAS TO BE LISTENING 24/7
I think either of us would be fools to think absolute either way.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 2:59 am to CAD703X
quote:You're going to love how easy Microsoft makes it for your kid to runupvideo game bills
i hate amazon for lots of reasons but i do not hate how easy they've made it for my 3yo to get in touch with me no matter where i am.
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