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re: Where do you stand on net neutrality?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:20 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:20 pm to Korkstand
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I happen to be on the side of the ISPs for now because I am against them in the bigger fight.
Let me get this straight. You support the ISPs now because you believe their current actions will be their undoing down the road? You basically believe you understand the industry and market better than these giant companies? Is that right?
Laugh all you want.
I don't give two shits what ISPs do. They don't have guns and jails. I can pick another one.
I can't make a phone call and pick a new government.
The government is infinitely more powerful than private industry, especially when you give the government power, which is then wielded by the ISPs anyway. Only then the big ones have the force of government to kill competition.
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:13 pm to SoulGlo
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I have had 5 ISPs. Every time one does something I don't like, I take my money away and give it to one I do like. I don't have to trust them. I am in control.
Jesus Christ. Congrats on being in the ~5% of the population with that option.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:15 pm to SoulGlo
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The government is infinitely more powerful than private industry, especially when you give the government power, which is then wielded by the ISPs anyway. Only then the big ones have the force of government to kill competition.
That's funny, because now ISPs will have the ability to censor content available on the internet. Something the government can't do.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:18 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Jesus Christ. Congrats on being in the ~5% of the population with that option.
Jesus Christ. Congrats on being one of the plentiful who can't figure out why the frick that is.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:25 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That's funny, because now ISPs will have the ability to censor content available on the internet. Something the government can't do.
Good, the government still can't do it.
As tech advances, everything you're scared of in this regard becomes more and more irrelevant. The government is never out of the picture once it's in.
The answer you seek is at the state and local level, not federal. Copying the current local bureaucracy to the federal level will not help.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:08 pm to SoulGlo
Think is good example would be Cox throttling all Directv Now, Sony Vue and Sling bandwidth so it's unusable and force us to sign back up with their TV service or pay a comparable amount to not throttle the streaming bandwidth.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:11 pm to t00f
Ok, then frick cox. Get a different one.
And before you bitch about there being no options, focus on the local politics and the reason why there are no other options. Creating the same environment at the federal level won't do anything but make it worse.
And before you bitch about there being no options, focus on the local politics and the reason why there are no other options. Creating the same environment at the federal level won't do anything but make it worse.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:39 pm to SoulGlo
You Poliboard tards are amazing with your lack of whats going on.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You Poliboard tards are amazing with your lack of whats going on.
You techboard tards are amazing with your lack of whats going on.
I have been paying attention to this for several years, when it was proposed by PACs. It has always been political, and you are falling for the sales pitch.
I have also dealt with telecom companies for a living for several years, and see the inner workings of why things are the way they are.
Government power is the problem, not the solution. It is another obvious case of the proposed solution being far worse than the current perceuved problem.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:17 pm to SoulGlo
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You techboard tards
Just because we post on here means doesn't mean that is all we know. I am not engaging you any further in this discussion as you seem to think everything is going to be fine when the telco's can do what they want. Like that has worked in the past. The greed by ISP/Telcos have no bounds and a fricking project meeting with a sales person does not make you an expert.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:35 pm to t00f
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Just because we post on here means doesn't mean that is all we know.
No shite, huh?
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everything is going to be fine when the telco's can do what they want
That is where consumers have to do their job. If we spend half the time holding local government and the ISPs to the fire this wouldn't be an issue.
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The greed by ISP/Telcos have no bounds
The entire modern and ancient history of civilization shows that government is more greedy than the ISPs.
You bitch about ISPs charging more for certain bandwidth… What are you going to do when the government taxes all or part of your bandwidth? Giving them the power to regulate the internet like utilities lets a genie out of a bottle that we will never get back in.
It's like asking your doctor to give you lung cancer to cure bronchitis.
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a fricking project meeting with a sales person does not make you an expert
You don't know what I do.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:48 pm to SoulGlo
Can’t believe I am still talking about this.
There is a pattern of the ISP’s already doing that while they had light touch authority but after title 2 approval the closest I can think of is application on t-mobile.
And yeah, I don’t know what you do but as someone who does deal with local/state/feds I only see your narrow opinion with people in the industry.
No one I deal with wants the ISPs to frick with their internet commerce.
There is a pattern of the ISP’s already doing that while they had light touch authority but after title 2 approval the closest I can think of is application on t-mobile.
And yeah, I don’t know what you do but as someone who does deal with local/state/feds I only see your narrow opinion with people in the industry.
No one I deal with wants the ISPs to frick with their internet commerce.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:00 pm to t00f
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No one I deal with wants the ISPs to frick with their internet commerce.
But you have no problem with the government fricking with internet commerce?
Do you just hate Verizon?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:07 pm to SoulGlo
I don’t like regulation but I believe Title II dated as it is, makes sense for now.
Only politicians I know that don’t agree have an agenda.
FCC is now Verizon is it not?
Only politicians I know that don’t agree have an agenda.
FCC is now Verizon is it not?
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