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re: Some Employers must think its 2010 still

Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:10 am to
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:10 am to
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If I'm a SIEM admin/analyst in this job climate I'm learning enough about each of the major SIEM platforms on my own to list them all on my resume. dont wait on an employer to train you. or like you said, they will just keep outsourcing to India


That's the saddest part. Nobody wants to budget training. Either because they think you can do it on your own time for free or they're afraid you'll bolt for another company in six months.

Unfortunately, nobody ever clued VMware in all this as they still require a course requirement along an exam to become any variant of VCP. Even if you let it expire, you have to go through the same process as if you never held a VCP.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 10:38 am to
Sort of hijack:
The outsourcing thing is straight up. We had a talk with a VP of a major oil company. He said “if you think you’re special, you’re not. We are building a global engineering center in India. I can hire three Indians for what it would cost me to pay one American “
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30651 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 1:36 pm to
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have been looking for an entry-level engineering position in SELA for a few months. All entry-level positions require 3+ years of experience in that exact industry doing that exact job. It's pretty ridiculous tbh

Fun fact: in less than a decade there is going to be a huge bow wave of performance deficiencies in technical companies because of the amount of people hitting retirement age. And because tech companies have completely ignored attrition by putting requirements into entry level positions like you referenced, there is a huge gap, especially in engineering.

It’s gonna be a fun decade.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30205 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 5:32 pm to
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there is going to be a huge bow wave of performance deficiencies in technical companies
sounds to me like there's gonna be huge pay jumps for those with skills though.
Posted by DoctorTechnical
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2901 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 6:08 pm to
Not in the way you may think. My industry (broadcast media) has been going through the aging-engineer thing for a while. The result is a messy topology of owners and facilities who think they can get by without properly-paid engineering staff -- and often they do, until something-big breaks. Then the old-farts like me can name our price, but only until the something-big thing is fixed.
Posted by helluvaday
Member since Jun 2018
443 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 1:30 pm to
I see this all the time - I see it in Denver, SF, LA, all high cost of living areas. Its fricking terrible
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:02 am to
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sounds to me like there's gonna be huge pay jumps for those with skills though.


Big reason why I remain working as an IT consultant and not work in a corporate IT department anymore. Organizations don't want to pay the money it would take to either hire the right people or train those who they have when skilled workers leave. At least tech companies that provide services and solutions are still somewhat willing to do that.
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