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re: Official WINK HUB Home Automation thread
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:11 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:11 pm to CAD703X
I didn't think a robot could disable itself. Have you verified it is disabling?
For the second open, enable a different robot after the first one that sends the notification.
For the second open, enable a different robot after the first one that sends the notification.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:31 pm to CAD703X
Just thinking a little out of the box here. . .
Does your sensor have terminals on the inside that you can act as your trigger rather than the mag? If so, you might be able to rig up something inside your mailbox that will break the circuit when there's mail in it and reconnect the circuit when it is removed. That would also eliminate any false alarms.
Does your sensor have terminals on the inside that you can act as your trigger rather than the mag? If so, you might be able to rig up something inside your mailbox that will break the circuit when there's mail in it and reconnect the circuit when it is removed. That would also eliminate any false alarms.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:10 pm to mctiger1985
delete
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:53 pm to CAD703X
MAILMAN JUST CAME AUTOMATION
Objective Have everyone at your house notified when the mailman comes.
You might say I'm being lazy, but we have a circular drive that's on a hill and the mailbox is on the 'exit' driveway side (see below) so nobody ever goes near the mailbox when coming home unless they're checking mail.
Problems
1. How to make your mailbox smart
2. How to set up the robots (see detail below) to identify if its the mailman dropping off mail or someone retrieving the mail afterward.
3. How to get WINK to text everyone at your house at the same time even if they don't have the app installed
Solutions
1. Installed a cheap Go-Control open/close sensor inside the mailbox. Mailbox is roughly 100ft from the house and down a hill. Zwave range has been perfect so far, no problems with lost signal.
2. See robot solution below. It will enable these features:
--> Notify when mailman drops mail off
--> Notify when someone opens the mailbox afterward to get the mail
--> Disable itself afterward so no false alarms
--> Reset for the next day.
3. I ditched the winkathome/IFTTT solution in favor of simplicity. I set up 8 filters in gmail using the TMO email-to-text addresses (phone#@tmomail.net) for each person (see last picture below)
- you need 4 robots
- first 2 defaulted ON
- second 2 defaulted OFF
- ROBOT 1 sends notification that mail has arrived (only triggers if mailbox opened after 3:30pm)
- ROBOT 3 sends notification that someone has picked up the mail left in the box
- ROBOT 2 and 4 work silently in the background to make sure things are working properly.
ROBOT 1 [ON]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 2 [ON]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 3 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 4 [OFF]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 1 open triggered by mailman, turns ROBOT 3 ON (next OPEN event) and sends notification
ROBOT 2 close triggered by mailman, turns ROBOT 4 ON (next CLOSE event) and ROBOT 1 OFF (so that robot won't activate again)
ROBOT 3 open triggered by FAMILY MEMBER turns ROBOT 2 OFF (so that CLOSE event won't trigger again) and sends notification
ROBOT 4 close triggered by FAMILY MEMBER turns ROBOT 3 OFF (so that OPEN event won't trigger again)
***
This will leave us in this state:
ROBOT 1 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 2 [OFF]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 3 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 4 [ON]: MAILBOX CLOSE
Its OK that Robot 4 is out-of-sync for the rest of the day because I'm not shooting out a notification so its silently sets ROBOT 3 off everytime its triggered but that doesn't affect anything.
All robots will be reset at night from another trigger (anytime after 6:45pm) to:
ROBOT 1 [ON]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 2 [ON]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 3 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 4 [OFF]: MAILBOX CLOSE
READY FOR THE NEXT DAY!
GOOGLE MAIL FILTERS

Objective Have everyone at your house notified when the mailman comes.
You might say I'm being lazy, but we have a circular drive that's on a hill and the mailbox is on the 'exit' driveway side (see below) so nobody ever goes near the mailbox when coming home unless they're checking mail.

Problems
1. How to make your mailbox smart
2. How to set up the robots (see detail below) to identify if its the mailman dropping off mail or someone retrieving the mail afterward.
3. How to get WINK to text everyone at your house at the same time even if they don't have the app installed
Solutions
1. Installed a cheap Go-Control open/close sensor inside the mailbox. Mailbox is roughly 100ft from the house and down a hill. Zwave range has been perfect so far, no problems with lost signal.
2. See robot solution below. It will enable these features:
--> Notify when mailman drops mail off
--> Notify when someone opens the mailbox afterward to get the mail
--> Disable itself afterward so no false alarms
--> Reset for the next day.
3. I ditched the winkathome/IFTTT solution in favor of simplicity. I set up 8 filters in gmail using the TMO email-to-text addresses (phone#@tmomail.net) for each person (see last picture below)
- you need 4 robots
- first 2 defaulted ON
- second 2 defaulted OFF
- ROBOT 1 sends notification that mail has arrived (only triggers if mailbox opened after 3:30pm)
- ROBOT 3 sends notification that someone has picked up the mail left in the box
- ROBOT 2 and 4 work silently in the background to make sure things are working properly.
ROBOT 1 [ON]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 2 [ON]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 3 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 4 [OFF]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 1 open triggered by mailman, turns ROBOT 3 ON (next OPEN event) and sends notification
ROBOT 2 close triggered by mailman, turns ROBOT 4 ON (next CLOSE event) and ROBOT 1 OFF (so that robot won't activate again)
ROBOT 3 open triggered by FAMILY MEMBER turns ROBOT 2 OFF (so that CLOSE event won't trigger again) and sends notification
ROBOT 4 close triggered by FAMILY MEMBER turns ROBOT 3 OFF (so that OPEN event won't trigger again)
***
This will leave us in this state:
ROBOT 1 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 2 [OFF]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 3 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 4 [ON]: MAILBOX CLOSE
Its OK that Robot 4 is out-of-sync for the rest of the day because I'm not shooting out a notification so its silently sets ROBOT 3 off everytime its triggered but that doesn't affect anything.
All robots will be reset at night from another trigger (anytime after 6:45pm) to:
ROBOT 1 [ON]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 2 [ON]: MAILBOX CLOSE
ROBOT 3 [OFF]: MAILBOX OPEN
ROBOT 4 [OFF]: MAILBOX CLOSE
READY FOR THE NEXT DAY!



GOOGLE MAIL FILTERS

This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:25 pm to CAD703X
At least you have it documented for when your hub crashes and you have to reset everything
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:51 pm to mctiger1985


eta you're probably right.
wink needs an export-robots feature badly!
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:06 am to CAD703X
CAD, will you buy me 2 camelot aged bronze touchscreen deadbolts so i can go ahead and set up a lock the doors feature with my wink?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:31 am to CarRamrod
wait..you want ME to buy them for you or are you asking if you should go ahead & buy them?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:43 pm to CarRamrod
Yeah i was looking at those. I like them but i need a new door first. Maybe when that happens i'll spring for the smart lock too.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:48 pm to bbap
i have been looking at them for a year now. still no price drop.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:27 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
i have been looking at them for a year now. still no price drop.
ebb and flow.
there are some for around $100 on ebay right now but they are the 'century' (rectangle) form factor schlage in silver.
set up a robot in ebay for BE469 (or whatever that code is for the rubbed bronze) and i promise you 1 or 2 will pop up in the next month around $100ish.
i've bought 4 and never paid more than $129 including shipping for any of them.
yes, that homeseer site is great; i've bought from them before and they have pretty good deals.
$159 isnt horrible, but you should be able to score a better price if you're patient.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 1:45 pm to CAD703X
Some home depots apparently have them clearanced at $129. Not sure about the bronze. Don't see those too often.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 2:23 pm to mctiger1985
Well i am in another state right now. So i might go look at the HDs here.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 2:25 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
Well i am in another state right now. So i might go look at the HDs here.
check these as well for discounts/half price smart doo-dads and pick them up as well
- ring ($99 instead of $199)
- canary ($99 in stead of $199)
- go control 'starter kit' ($25 instead of $50)
- go control 'premium kit' ($50 instead of $100)
Good luck

This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 2:25 pm to CAD703X
CAD are those ebay robots setup from your ebay page, or is it a sencdary website tracking the listings.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 2:31 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
CAD are those ebay robots setup from your ebay page, or is it a sencdary website tracking the listings.
here's your lock for $119 LINK
and here's how to set up a robot/search:
- go to ebay
- log in
- search for..say 'be469'
- right under listings you will see green "follow this search"
- you'll get new ebay emails daily with items that match that search
Posted on 3/10/16 at 2:41 pm to CAD703X
i got it right after i asked the question... well i bought that one.... waiting for one more.
ETA: can I rekey this lock to match my key?
ETA: can I rekey this lock to match my key?
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 3:17 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
ETA: can I rekey this lock to match my key?
yep. its like $15 at home depot to do this.
eta i haven't used a key since installing them over 2 years ago. battery lasted me over a year but that usage will vary based on how many times you flip the lock yourself vs always doing it from your phone or script. considering part of that battery usage was the 'novelty' factor of my kids going crazy with it, i expect the current batteries to last longer.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 3:21 pm to CAD703X
so HD has to rekey the lock.... damn ok. i was hoping it was a DIY
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