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New (2) Desktop Computers by Dell - What's the Best For My Needs?

Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:23 am
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:23 am
For business use (construction industry). I also want a good server (again, by Dell if all possible).

I need to be able to flip through plans quickly, save an abundance of digital plans/ files, hold a lot email correspondence.

I am obviously technologically retarded. Any help is appreciated.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:28 am to
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Desktop Computers by Dell
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good server


going to need some more details about what exactly are you looking for, especially the server.

What programs do you use, how large is your data size currently, whats your budget...
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:28 am to
I don't get how some people can be in such lucrative positions in their businesses and have no idea that they at minimum should look into an MSP if they aren't going to pony up for an in house grunt
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:03 am to
Been too busy being a worker bee. Haven't exactly had time in the past 15 years to be researching the best computers & servers.
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:13 am to
This is what is powering our office at the moment (Eight people in our office).

My Desktop Computer is a Dell XPS (Core i5)
Server is a Dell PowerEdge 110
Back Up is APC Back-Ups Pro 1500S

Obviously, if this can power 8 people using it, it will power 2 of us. My question is more of...how outdated is this stuff? And what would be the better upgrades?


ETA:
quote:

What programs do you use, how large is your data size currently, whats your budget..


Programs: Microsoft Office - that's really about it. I get most of my content from websites (plans, specs, etc.)

Though we have our own domain for emails, it's funneled through gmail. Not sure how much space we have, but I never delete emails.

Budget is going to be $5,000 for the following...

(2) Desktops
(4) Screens
(1) Server

If I have left over money to spend - it'll be on printer & scanner.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 11:20 am
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:14 am to
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Haven't exactly had time in the past 15 years to be researching the best computers & servers.



thats his point.
you don't have the knowledge to pick the hardware. you need a MSP to take care of that for you.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:18 am to
Do each workstation just see data on server or can you login from any computer in network?
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:22 am to
I gotcha. My bad...now what's an MSP?
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:23 am to
We can login from any computer in network
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:33 am to
a managed service provider. who has been taking care of your IT needs up until now?
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:54 am to
EMCO
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:07 pm to
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EMCO



is literally an MSP

ETA: Surprised they do a company as small as yours (obviously they aren't doing it well)
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

how outdated is this stuff?


very

quote:

And what would be the better upgrades?



are you against utilizing a cloud based service ?

quote:

hough we have our own domain for emails, it's funneled through gmail.


Just get Office 365 and be done

seriously...@gmail me if you need actual ideas
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:44 pm to
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EMCO

so why arent you asking them these questions? do you not trust them? are they not doing a good job?
I've got no dog in this hunt - but your msp should be providing you with vCIO services.
if you are on just a break/fix contract they should still be able to give you a proposal and quote.

since they are your provider, they are in a much better position to give accurate info than anyone on the board. we just don't know enough about your setup and usage.
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:55 pm to


This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:07 pm to
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I'm inquiring about this stuff because I don't intend on being at the same place much longer.


If you really want to keep all this in house, its going to need double your budget..Seriously think about getting as much in the cloud as you can
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:08 pm to
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I want to know what equipment to buy for my own company


Honestly it sounds like you could do well with a NAS server(or cloud), Office 365, and some good desktops.

Do you need a full blown client server? with just two computers in the network
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:10 pm to
OK now we're getting somewhere.
1st, I have yet to see you give a need for a server. 2 users, no specific software being used thats server based, no need for in house email exchange. Instead I would be using a good quality NAS to store collaborative docs and on premise backups, following that up with an off site (online) emergency backup.

As for dell desktops, their XPS line is just fine. QNAP and Synology both make good NAS units. 0365 should handle your email and word processing.

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:24 pm to
OP How big do you expect your data to be? are we talking less than a TB of data to be stored or much more?

For a $5k budget, you can get two great computers, big monitors, software, NAS and HD's, and have room left over for the extras, but really depends on how much data you have(or plan to) to start
Posted by lsugerberbaby
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:03 pm to
Looks like we are all sharing approximately 919 GB w/ 17 GB left of free storage. If this is enough for 8 people, it should surely be enough for me and another.

Again, I'm not familiar with what a cloud can do versus the server. I mean, I understand it holds data. But from what I understand...I'd need a server for both of us to be able to operate a quoting program/ financial program (i.e. Quick Books) at the same time. Right?

Thank you guys for the help by the way. I understand that I'll probably need a tech a some point, but if I can at least start purchasing computers now...it'd be ideal. That way I can at least start loading documents, email, programs, etc...while I'm still employed. So far you guys are being of great help!
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