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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 pm to
Well when I was mining Eth it was a bitch due to the heat from the GPUs. It's alot of money to invest to get started. The antminer posted above is $16k. Maybe you make $25 per day or so. It's a long way to break even.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:31 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37919 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:44 pm to
It all depends on the cards.

At this moment, an RTX 3060Ti can make you:

$4.13 before electricity (ETH)
$3.79 after electricity (ETH)

$4.91 before electricity (ERG)
$4.57 after electricity (ERG)


And that’s if you’re using just your gaming PC.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1555 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:25 am to
Are those numbers accounting for LHR? P.S. good luck getting a 3060 TI. Not to mention it's gonna take ~6+ months to break even if you can get a card at MSRP. So after a year from when you're able to secure said 3060 TI, if ETH 2.0 doesn't hit first, you walk away with a couple hundred bucks. Doesn't seem worth the hassle of fricking with it to me. If you really want to get into Crypto as a hobby I'd be looking at proof of stake coins versus proof of work coins especially with GPU mining going the way of the dodo soon(?).
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:52 am to
But you are also assuming ETH stays at a stagnant value
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37919 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:58 am to
i'm sure those values are coming from non-LHR cards.


but you gotta think. ETH isn't the only mineable coin out there. sure, the current hashrate vastly outweighs Ravencoin and Ergo. the way it was put to me was this:

"currently, there's $100 to be made and ETH is paying $95 of it."

no one knows what's going to happen when the hashrate moves from ETH to another coin, but to think that mining will completely go away, like the flip of the switch, when ETH moves to PoS is crazy.

Ravencoin block rewards are supposed to halve at the end of the year, or so i'm told. and if BTC has any indication of that, that should move the price up to make it profitable to mine.

also, i'm at 85-90% ROI by just using 4-1660 supers and 1 3060Ti. i had a 5700xt and 6700xt, but something happened to them to be out of commission at the moment. hoping to get them repaired.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1555 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:07 am to
quote:

but to think that mining will completely go away, like the flip of the switch, when ETH moves to PoS is crazy.


I don't think it's going to go away overnight, just be even less appealing once ETH is gone. There seems to be a lot of interest in moving away from POW for Blockchain decentralization and I personally wouldn't be advising people not already invested to plop down thousands on GPU rigs right now. One it's a bad time to be buying GPUs and two the uncertainty surrounding GPU mining going forward.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:07 am to
Even if you mine on them for 2 months and the market tanks, 3000 series cards are still going to be in high demand on the secondary market. Making your money back at worst will be very easy
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37919 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:39 am to
quote:

3000 series cards are still going to be in high demand on the secondary market. Making your money back at worst will be very easy



yeah and that's true and nobody knows what's going to happen after ETH 2.0. will the market be flooded with used mining cards or will people just move on to the next coin? like all investments, it's going to be a risk.

i'm definitely not telling you to go out and do this....










maybe start out with this and see how it goes...

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57947 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:10 am to
quote:

no one knows what's going to happen when the hashrate moves from ETH to another coin, but to think that mining will completely go away, like the flip of the switch, when ETH moves to PoS is crazy.
which is why my miners are on full speed from now until then.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1555 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Even if you mine on them for 2 months and the market tanks, 3000 series cards are still going to be in high demand on the secondary market. Making your money back at worst will be very easy


If you're just getting in you'll be paying top dollar for those GPUs or waiting a long time to get multiple 3000 series cards at MSRP which will be LHR cards. Sure if you call the top you may be able to come out ahead on liquidating the GPUs, but you likely won't and will be trying to sell your GPUs when everyone else is which isnt going to be today's eBay pricing. I'm just saying if you are getting in now you could be looking at the better half of a year, if not a full one, from today to getting your rig together to breaking even on your equipment and in a year GPU mining could be a fraction of what it is now. There's a fundamental change to GPU mining on the horizon and GPUs are more expensive than ever, I can't imagine deciding to jump in now.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:11 pm to
I thought about doing it but the profit margin on those $2k mining machines didn't seem worth the noise.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:19 pm to
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Bitmain Antminer ASIC Amazon listing


That thing basically requires two separate 15amp circuits that have NOTHING else on those circuits. I guess technically, you could run a couple of them on a dryer circuit when you're not using it.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
18192 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 8:18 am to
I do and have done a lot of it in the past. It’s how I accumulated most of my wealth
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