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Google wifi questions

Posted on 11/5/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 7:36 pm
I have Eatel internet with 1Gig speed or whatever the call it. I bought and set up Google wifi 3 pack tonight. Here are the results using my samsung galaxy s20:
Eatel wifi(5g)-130 upload 153 download
Google wifi-68 upload 158 download
Google wifi with test ran through Google home app: 751 download 857 download

Why is the Google wifi worse than Eatel when running a speed test using a normal speed test app?

Why does running the test through the Google Home app make it look so much better?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 9:45 pm to
I can't be certain, but here are my thoughts on what's happening.

When you run a speedtest with the google home app, it likely triggers the google router to run the test itself, which is hardwired to your modem. When you run a speedtest on your phone, the test is run on your phone. In other words, the wifi link is slow, not your eatel connection.

Check the settings on your phone under wifi, see if you can find a place where it tells you the wifi link speed. I'd bet it is in the 200-something range, in which case a speedtest can't go faster than that.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/5/20 at 10:08 pm to
Sounds spot on to me.

Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 11/6/20 at 9:02 am to
quote:

When you run a speedtest with the google home app, it likely triggers the google router to run the test itself, which is hardwired to your modem. When you run a speedtest on your phone, the test is run on your phone. In other words, the wifi link is slow, not your eatel connection.


This right here
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 9:58 am to
Thanks. I understand that there is a max that devices can handle.
I still don't understand that if I stand in the middle of my house and use Ookla speed test app with Eatel wifi and Google wifi, the speeds are lower with Google. This is with two of the google routers behind me and one in front where the Eatel modem is.
This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:20 am to
I don't know what to tell you about that other than to say that wifi is incredibly variable and subject to all kinds of interference and obstacles, both visible and not. It really is a miracle that it works at all.

First, understand that wireless signals do not radiate evenly in all directions. Every device has a different radiation pattern, so they have weak zones in different places. It could be that you can find another spot in the same room where the google wifi is faster than the eatel. Or maybe not.

Do you have both wifi signals active at the same time? Are they on different channels? If they are on the same channel (or close to it), they may interfere with one another and the slightly stronger signal "wins". If they are on different channels, maybe the eatel is using a less crowded one and the google might be faster if they switched.

Maybe your phone just "prefers" the eatel (or vice-versa) for whatever reason, perhaps it is just better at tuning in the eatel signal. Think of an analog radio dial... if you get close to a station you can hear what's being played and said even if there's a little static, but just a little bit more tuning could clear it up. Just a little bit of "static" can slow down wifi by a lot.
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:30 am to
Both signals are active at the same time. I'm not sure how to tell if they are on different channels or not. How can I check this?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:18 pm to
You can login to the google/eatel routers and check which channels they are using. Or you can download a wifi scanning app on your phone to see not only which channels your routers are using, but also all your neighbors.

Most likely you are on 5GHz though, which has a lot of channels and less interference. My best guess is the speed discrepancy you are seeing has something to do with the radiation patterns of the devices, or just some quirk with your phone. Have you tried with multiple devices? Is the google wifi always slower?

In real world use I doubt you will notice the difference in upload speed.
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:48 pm to
The Eatel numbers are from 5ghz and whatever Google wifi is (I guess 5ghz). I just ran it from the laptop that I'm typing this on:
Eatel: 260.89 DL
218.46 UL

Google: 137.10 DL
124.45 UL

Basically, I'm trying to figure out if I set something up incorrectly or if Google Wifi is pointless for my house
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 6:38 pm
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