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Google Home and Google Play Music - help me use them
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:21 am
I need help understanding what it is I am doing with these things. I am old, dumb, and stubborn. Cad, go away.
History:
When I switched from Windows phone to Android, Google play automatically started handing my music. No problems, I like it, and feel somewhat comfortable using it. Basically, I would either shuffle my songs, play a playlist, or scroll and play individual songs I like.
Then I bought an Insignia Google speaker. I started telling it to play songs and my music. I assumed it was shuffling, but the more I read, it seems that Google Home only plays from your playlists? Anyway, I must have had a trial of the pay service because it would do these awesome things for a while(like form a station from an obscure 80's college tune and stay on genre), then after a while(week or so) would tell me I had to pay. No big deal yet. I may end up paying later if I figure this all out because it was way cool.
Enter new house with lots of speakers. I bought a Chromecast audio and hooked it to a receiver which can play music in multiple areas of the house thanks to speaker selector.
Here's where I am so confused that I don't even know how to form an intelligent question. Through google home, I sometimes have no idea where the music is coming from. I say this because it's playing music I neither own, nor like. Then recently, it stopped for some reason. After getting back going, it must have formed a channel(like Pandora) from what I had been listening to, as every song was from the same genre, and included lots of songs not in my library. That was cool and all, but I don't know how I did it, nor how to repeat that.
I guess I don't understand the interplay between Home and Music, and need direction as to how to most efficiently use the Chromecast audio and/or home app. I can answer questions if this makes no sense.
History:
When I switched from Windows phone to Android, Google play automatically started handing my music. No problems, I like it, and feel somewhat comfortable using it. Basically, I would either shuffle my songs, play a playlist, or scroll and play individual songs I like.
Then I bought an Insignia Google speaker. I started telling it to play songs and my music. I assumed it was shuffling, but the more I read, it seems that Google Home only plays from your playlists? Anyway, I must have had a trial of the pay service because it would do these awesome things for a while(like form a station from an obscure 80's college tune and stay on genre), then after a while(week or so) would tell me I had to pay. No big deal yet. I may end up paying later if I figure this all out because it was way cool.
Enter new house with lots of speakers. I bought a Chromecast audio and hooked it to a receiver which can play music in multiple areas of the house thanks to speaker selector.
Here's where I am so confused that I don't even know how to form an intelligent question. Through google home, I sometimes have no idea where the music is coming from. I say this because it's playing music I neither own, nor like. Then recently, it stopped for some reason. After getting back going, it must have formed a channel(like Pandora) from what I had been listening to, as every song was from the same genre, and included lots of songs not in my library. That was cool and all, but I don't know how I did it, nor how to repeat that.
I guess I don't understand the interplay between Home and Music, and need direction as to how to most efficiently use the Chromecast audio and/or home app. I can answer questions if this makes no sense.
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:38 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Cad, go away.
you know this is going to have the opposite effect right?
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Here's where I am so confused that I don't even know how to form an intelligent question. Through google home, I sometimes have no idea where the music is coming from. I say this because it's playing music I neither own, nor like. Then recently, it stopped for some reason. After getting back going, it must have formed a channel(like Pandora) from what I had been listening to, as every song was from the same genre, and included lots of songs not in my library. That was cool and all, but I don't know how I did it, nor how to repeat that.
I guess I don't understand the interplay between Home and Music, and need direction as to how to most efficiently use the Chromecast audio and/or home app. I can answer questions if this makes no sense.
you probably have multiple accounts linked to your google home. if you, for instance say 'play howard jones radio' it may start playing from pandora.
you can likely go into the settings and select how many different music sources you want to link to your google home account.
i don't use home, I use alexa and i know it will either play music from prime, pandora or tune-in radio.
you can definitely set up favorites in Home (playlists, etc) with specific names so when you ask it to play that it will be what you are wanting.
eta CAD;DR you can likely fine-tune the music sources your google assistant pulls from in the Home app and delete any that you don't want it 'accidently' pulling from.
eta2 google music is one of the few things i actually pay for. do the 30 day free trial and i bet your problems will virtually go away since it has all the music on it..plus you get free youtube music as well.
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:43 am to CAD703X
Only Google Play is selected.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:49 am to AlxTgr
are you using your voice to activate the music or selecting it from your phone?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:54 am to CAD703X
I do both. The home app doesn't have much to it. I will either say, Hey Google, play my music on Den Speaker, or I have since learned to open google play music and tap the cast button that I did not know was even there until this week. It was confusing to me that the Chromecast was playing, yet when I opened google play and hit the play button, the phone would play that music. I guess I thought it was all linked.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:37 am to AlxTgr
quote:
I guess I thought it was all linked.
google could do a much better job here. and depending on whether or not you have the app 'installed' on the device you may or may not even see the cast icon in the app on your phone.
i think if you're at home on your wifi when you go to play music by default it should pop up the cast icon and ask if you want to play it on one of your local devices first before playing it on your phone.
the casting thing is weird; they got all DRM on it so its no longer as simple as being able to cast anything. even comcast frickers disabled the 'mirror screen' option from my phone when attempting to play live tv on my TV over the fireplace that only has a chromecast for input.
how fricking lame was that? this is why i cancelled comcrap and bought an hd homerun device.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:52 am to CAD703X
quote:This looks like the best way. The home app just does have anything other than play or some such, and no telling what it is going to play. I'll just use music to stat things off, then home to adjust volume, skip and change from one device to the other. I guess.
i think if you're at home on your wifi when you go to play music by default it should pop up the cast icon and ask if you want to play it on one of your local devices first before playing it on your phone.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:54 am to AlxTgr
quote:
This looks like the best way. The home app just does have anything other than play or some such, and no telling what it is going to play. I'll just use music to stat things off, then home to adjust volume, skip and change from one device to the other. I guess.
i put a new sonos 1 in the bathroom and you can choose alexa or google home as the voice assistant. i set it to alexa at the moment because i'm more familiar with that but i'll switch to google and play around with it and see what you're experiencing since it should be virtually the same as what you're doing.
alexa wont play my google music library by default except if i add playlists from it to my sonos 'favorites'.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:32 am to CAD703X
Totally forget about this part.
So, you have music playing that you started through Home. You're looking at the minimal stuff shown by home when you select that device. At the bottom, there are two things you can select: stop casting and open Google play music. If you select the latter, it opens, but then proceeds to operate completely separate from home. To play through the speaker, you then have to cast. Maybe that makes sense to Google, but it doesn't to me.
So, you have music playing that you started through Home. You're looking at the minimal stuff shown by home when you select that device. At the bottom, there are two things you can select: stop casting and open Google play music. If you select the latter, it opens, but then proceeds to operate completely separate from home. To play through the speaker, you then have to cast. Maybe that makes sense to Google, but it doesn't to me.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:49 am to AlxTgr
Try switching everything over to YouTube music. Google is shutting down play music and migrating everything over to YouTube music. Set it as your default, and it will create stations based on music you like. There is a free version with adds or a paid version with no adds.
And if you want to play something from your downloaded Google play music library, you can either cast from the app, or say "hey Google, play xxxxxxx from Google play music" and it will use that music source to play.
Likewise, you can say "hey Google, play xxxxxxx station on Pandora" and it will start Pandora even if it is not your default music source.
At some point in the not too distant future, play music will he shut down. They are in the process of migrating everyone's play music library over to YouTube music, and that will be an all in one app for streaming and playing locally owned music for google
And if you want to play something from your downloaded Google play music library, you can either cast from the app, or say "hey Google, play xxxxxxx from Google play music" and it will use that music source to play.
Likewise, you can say "hey Google, play xxxxxxx station on Pandora" and it will start Pandora even if it is not your default music source.
At some point in the not too distant future, play music will he shut down. They are in the process of migrating everyone's play music library over to YouTube music, and that will be an all in one app for streaming and playing locally owned music for google
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:08 am to dltigers3
quote:Dang
They are in the process of migrating everyone's play music library over to YouTube music, and that will be an all in one app for streaming and playing locally owned music for google
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:35 am to AlxTgr
i broke down & got the $7.99/mo google music subscription b/c youtube music was included free and i'm hoping this pays off for me when they frick me on my 40,000 song library i've uploaded to google music.
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