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re: Gaming Computer
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:46 pm to swanny297
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:46 pm to swanny297
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You mentioned the cooler and power supply - in a pre built system like this is that something that can be upgraded or changed to be more in line with what the system needs?
Mostly yes.
For power supplies, most cases, especially gaming systems, fit an "ATX" size standard power supply (that iBuyPower prebuilt system does), but special size cases like slim PCs or media PCs can use other form factors so I'd avoid prebuilts with those types of cases.
For coolers you just need to make sure the new cooler supports the socket type of the processor you have, and that it'll physically fit within the case. The sockets are standard and most coolers should be designed to fit all the common ones, just make sure you have the right one when purchasing the cooler.
eta--
quote:That's definitely more "competitively" than I do. I just get bored and log onto CS:GO casual mode, I'm pretty good but there are zero stakes to it. I'll just get pissed if I lose to another human being because of my computer, so I'll pay whatever it takes for more smooth framerate, because I'm a competitive a-hole at heart
Definitely not competitively but he does play pretty often and his “clan” as he calls it are pretty good
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 3:51 pm
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:00 pm to efrad
So you think the one I linked would be a good all around prebuilt and one that we could upgrade?
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:38 pm to swanny297
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So you think the one I linked would be a good all around prebuilt and one that we could upgrade?
Spec-wise, your son would be very happy with it now and for some time to come. Prices are rapidly changing right now and I don't know if the price is good or bad though.
As for upgradability, the things Josh said earlier are insightful considerations:
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And my primary issue with the one you linked is that a 240 aio is a little undersized for that cpu, and 750w is a little lower than I would like on the psu.
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Both Intel and AMD are right at the cusp of moving into new chipsets and are shifting to DDR5 RAM. If you buy into either ecosystem right now, you would likely have to buy an entirely new motherboard later if you wanted to upgrade the cpu.
The latter point is something you'll pretty much be dealing with in any system right now, though. That's a consequence of buying towards the end of a generation. You might find yourself down the line in a scenario where upgrading one thing might entail having to upgrade everything (for example -- new CPU might mean new chipset, so you need a new motherboard; new chipsets would take DDR5 memory instead of DDR4 so you now need new memory; that PSU and cooler might not be enough for that new stuff so you're getting that too, etc.). But as always, you can sell these parts used to fund your upgrades. It's a dance enthusiasts do often.
Another thing to note is, looking at the back of that case, it puts the graphics card up front in a vertical orientation but is an oddly thin setup where it only accepts half-height expansion cards for anything other than the graphics card. Who knows if your son will ever care to install an expansion card if it's just strictly a gaming PC, but that aspect of the case could limit expandability. You might want to look for something with a more standard case layout, it will help when choosing parts and following youtube tutorials etc. (eta: and it looks like the ibuypower cases with more standard layouts have and support bigger 360 aio coolers vs. the 240 aio)
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:54 pm to efrad
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eta: and it looks like the ibuypower cases with more standard layouts have and support bigger 360 aio coolers vs. the 240 aio
Thanks for the feedback, is there a similar system you think would be a better option for him, I am open to suggestions.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:32 pm to swanny297
on second thought about this point:
i was wrong, they almost all have 360mm fans (that is, three x 120mm fans in the front) but only either 240mm radiator or 120mm radiator.
Let's see what Joshjrn can come up with for a spec sheet if he decides to, I'm not sure about using ibuypower with some of their specs being undisclosed (like PSUs, do we know they're using good quality ones?) Been a long time since I paid attention to prebuilt reviews
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eta: and it looks like the ibuypower cases with more standard layouts have and support bigger 360 aio coolers vs. the 240 aio
i was wrong, they almost all have 360mm fans (that is, three x 120mm fans in the front) but only either 240mm radiator or 120mm radiator.
Let's see what Joshjrn can come up with for a spec sheet if he decides to, I'm not sure about using ibuypower with some of their specs being undisclosed (like PSUs, do we know they're using good quality ones?) Been a long time since I paid attention to prebuilt reviews
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:12 pm to efrad
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Let's see what Joshjrn can come up with for a spec sheet if he decides to, I'm not sure about using ibuypower with some of their specs being undisclosed (like PSUs, do we know they're using good quality ones?) Been a long time since I paid attention to prebuilt reviews
Wasn't ever really asked for, and I didn't want to impose
Little past my bed time, so I didn't agonize over this one the way I normally would, but this would be my quick hit suggestion for a spec list eying a $2,000 budget for someone who does low res high refresh competitive gaming, using only parts (read: GPU) available right now:
PCPartPicker Part List: LINK
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-AIO Basic 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.00)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix Gold P31 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($777.99 @ EVGA)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($132.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1984.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-15 23:06 EDT-0400
Note: I manually set the price on the cooler because PCPartpicker is currently broken by Newegg not showing a price unless you go to cart, and Amazon is currently out of stock outside of third party sellers. You can find it here: LINK
Note 2: GPUs are have become much more available, but are still a bit fricky. So I feel really odd pitching a nearly $800 3070ti when I'm sitting next to a 3080 I paid $700 for. But that simply becomes a function of how quickly someone wants to pull the trigger on the build versus waiting for stock to show up.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:19 pm to swanny297
I did this last year for my son. Ended up ordering from CXL gaming. You pick each individual component and then they build it. Process was great.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:57 am to hawgndodge
Thanks everyone for all the input and help appreciate it
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:42 am to swanny297
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Thanks everyone for all the input and help appreciate it
It looks complicated, but it's not. Can you get yourself in trouble, sure. But you came to the right place. I wish I had done what you did can came here first. I built mine in Nov. and am still exploring ways to upgrade. I went with last gen stuff (gen 11 intel). Had I come here, I would have loved to have used something like what Josh posted as my build, even though GPUs were harder to come by then.
There are tons of videos on youtube that can show you how to build it if you choose the parts picker stuff. Part of the fun is building. But your level of comfort with doing that should be a factor.
Either way, your son will have a great setup.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:17 pm to swanny297
If you want to save $200 on the parts list I posted, just go buy this now: LINK
And then the rest of your build is immediately available.
It's a great fit for the type of gaming he's doing. Kudos to UltimateHog for catching this earlier today and posting it on the GPU thread.
And then the rest of your build is immediately available.
It's a great fit for the type of gaming he's doing. Kudos to UltimateHog for catching this earlier today and posting it on the GPU thread.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:04 am to Joshjrn
Josh
Thanks for all your help, little did I know one of my older nephews is all about this stuff so we have ordered parts and when they arrive he is going to come educate me and help my son put it together - he had some good leads on components as well.
Case - he had a new one in his closet
CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 - 5800X
Cooler - 360 AIO
Fans - 9 RGB
Motherboard - X570
Ram - 16G 3200
Graphics - GeForce RTX 3080
Hard Drive - 1TB Gen4 SSD
Power - 850W 80plus Gold
Thanks for all your help, little did I know one of my older nephews is all about this stuff so we have ordered parts and when they arrive he is going to come educate me and help my son put it together - he had some good leads on components as well.
Case - he had a new one in his closet
CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 - 5800X
Cooler - 360 AIO
Fans - 9 RGB
Motherboard - X570
Ram - 16G 3200
Graphics - GeForce RTX 3080
Hard Drive - 1TB Gen4 SSD
Power - 850W 80plus Gold
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 11:05 am
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:23 am to swanny297
More than the kid needs for the gaming he’s doing, and I would still swap out the 5800x for a 5800x3d, but looks good 
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:52 pm to Joshjrn
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This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 5/21/22 at 8:45 pm to swanny297
Build one from scratch.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 1:32 pm to Joshjrn
Josh
Again thanks it is built and he got it this wknd, loves it. In searching the net it is similar to a Skytech prism 2 - not quite as much RGB stuff. My neighbors son is moving over seas and was selling some of his gaming gear so we got a lightly used LG Ultra Clear 32GP83B-B for $150 so he is using that along with it. I don’t know a lot of the king but he is playing Fortnite at 1440p resolution and running 350-450 FPS (I guess that is good??). Anyway he is happy so that’s all that matters.
Again thanks it is built and he got it this wknd, loves it. In searching the net it is similar to a Skytech prism 2 - not quite as much RGB stuff. My neighbors son is moving over seas and was selling some of his gaming gear so we got a lightly used LG Ultra Clear 32GP83B-B for $150 so he is using that along with it. I don’t know a lot of the king but he is playing Fortnite at 1440p resolution and running 350-450 FPS (I guess that is good??). Anyway he is happy so that’s all that matters.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:23 pm to swanny297
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I don’t know a lot of the king but he is playing Fortnite at 1440p resolution and running 350-450 FPS (I guess that is good??). Anyway he is happy so that’s all that matters.
That is insanely good
Traditionally, most console games only run at 30fps and people consider it awesome if a console game manages to run at 60fps. That monitor can "only" display up to 165fps though (I say "only" because 165 is fantastic), so make sure your son jacks up the graphics quality settings all the way, to get the most out of the setup even if it reduces the framerate. Also make sure that G-Sync is enabled for that monitor in the Nvidia settings, it will make things extremely smooth even for games that don't run at that great of a framerate.
Posted on 6/5/22 at 5:20 pm to swanny297
Glad it worked out for you, mate
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