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FCC Sides with Google Fiber

Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:58 am
Hoping that this allows Google fiber to expand more across the US. Here in Jax it was in the works then At&t/ comcast fought to keep it out. Google then stopped plans for fiber here. Hoping this gets the ball rolling again. Would love to see more competiton in the fiber industry. FCC sides with Google
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:04 am to
google fiber came to nashville and.......


...i guess if you live in the projects or one of the fancy high rises downtown its nice but those of us who live 18 miles outside of downtown will never see it.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:06 am to
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...i guess if you live in the projects or one of the fancy high rises downtown its nice but those of us who live 18 miles outside of downtown will never see it.



I guess the only plus would be the hope that prices dropped based on competition ? Its 85ish here for ATT fibre, but I wonder if that would drop with competition
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:09 am to
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I guess the only plus would be the hope that prices dropped based on competition ? Its 85ish here for ATT fibre, but I wonder if that would drop with competition


i have a friend who lives in Sylvan Park (a trendy area near downtown that i could kick my own arse for not buying a house as a rental years ago..) and he has it. the more people who sign up in his area, the more his bill drops

its pretty damn cool but google is going after the 'sweetspots' first where they can make the most money and i think the rule is they have to wire up a low-income neighborhood for each nice one.

so google's working on keeping their ratio at 1
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99903 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:43 am to
Surprised that running fiber to a pole is federal in any way. Would think that is a local regulation.

That said most are owned by the power company and are in high demand, obviously.

"Telephone Poles
May 21st, 2010 by Marcus Maher
Whoops. The title of this blog post is wrong. It should be “utility poles,” which points to one of the many ironies in the hidden life of the ubiquitous utility pole. Most of what are commonly known as telephone poles are actually owned by the electric utility –70% of them, in fact. But whether a telephone company or other utility owns the poles, every other kind of company that hangs anything on these poles pays the utility company for the privilege, and under current federal rules a cable company and a telephone company pay different rates for attaching their lines to a pole. But now that broadband and IP communications are merging voice, data and video, charging different rates for different types of communications services seems to make less and less sense.

Make no mistake about it: the humble telephone, er, utility pole, is hot real estate. Companies pay, on average, anywhere between $7 per foot and $20 per foot for a pole attachment. Multiplied by hundreds of thousand of poles, that can have an impact on whether services are delivered to a community or not. Utility poles are essential infrastructure, and infrastructure costs can affect the price or availability of service, the National Broadband Plan found. In rural areas, where there may be more poles per mile than people, the cost of pole attachments could deter broadband deployment. Or in other instances, a cable company planning to bundle voice, data and video in the coaxial cable might be deterred if the voice service would subject the company to a higher pole attachment rate.

Also, it can take new companies many months or even years to get their facilities on the poles. Adding a new attacher often means that existing attachers must all move their wires, which they have little incentive to do quickly. Frustrated attachers may be tempted to take matters into their own hands and put up their wires in secret, which can be unsafe as well as unfair to the pole owner. Access can become even more complicated when wireless carriers want to put their antennas on pole tops to fill in cellular coverage.

So following up on the National Broadband Plan, the Commission is taking a look at ways to reduce costs and speed access to poles in an Order and FNPRM released in yesterday's Open Commission Meeting. The item will also look at whether rates can be made as low and as close to uniform as possible. So next time you walk down the street, don’t take that humble stick of creosoted dead tree for granted. It’s as important a part of delivering you 21st century communications as that slick iPad is – though maybe not as pretty to look at."

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Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:58 am to
comcast tried to sabotage google in nashville by dragging their feet for EVERY SINGLE POLE google showed up at. they have 2 weeks to respond to move their shite around on the pole so google would have space to add theirs and they waited..the entire 2 weeks...every single time.

pretty much ground everything to a halt for google for like a year.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Surprised that running fiber to a pole is federal in any way. Would think that is a local regulation.



I wonder if it being pulled underground here, made a difference in its rollout
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:04 pm to
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I wonder if it being pulled underground here, made a difference in its rollout


i think its going to be a combination no matter where you live. some portions can definitely go underground but eventually you're going to need access to poles.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99903 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:16 pm to
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I wonder if it being pulled underground here, made a difference in its rollout


i think its going to be a combination no matter where you live. some portions can definitely go underground but eventually you're going to need access to poles.


Answer you both, fiber here in Metry was buried to a white pole with an orange cap and then run to the telephone poles.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:23 pm to
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ber here in Metry was buried to a white pole with an orange cap and then run to the telephone poles.




If I trace it out of my neighborhood, it is buried as far as I can tell..House to big box in front of neighborhood..From there, to multiple "feeder" boxes and there I assume at some point it does hit a pole
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99903 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:08 pm to
Yep, have it installed so I can attest to it coming down the pole to the house.

Real world bandwidth I am still evaluating but at $80 for the first year I am content with playing around and deciding.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Yep, have it installed so I can attest to it coming down the pole to the house.


weird..the more I think about it, the less I notice poles in our area..Seems like since its a newer subdivision everything from the main road, in, is buried
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99903 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:16 pm to
Not sure, figured most Metairie subdivisions has power poles and then other services hanging from them.

If y'alls cables are all underground I am major jealous.
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