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re: CAD's useless guide to setting up OTA antenna + DVR using hdhomerun & Plex
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:47 pm to mchias1
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:47 pm to mchias1
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*you also are giving away your GPS coordinates on the dioptra image
Took that at work bonehead. That will just stick you in the middle of downtown Nashville.
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:24 pm to CAD703X
btw Grid View is now a thing in plex for web and coming in the next few days for apps.
I never minded the other view though. Kinda liked it actually.
I never minded the other view though. Kinda liked it actually.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:29 pm to efrad
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I never minded the other view though. Kinda liked it actually.
It's navigable but I don't like how I can't see what's coming on next.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:53 pm to junkfunky
It sucked. I can look at web site in grid view and see completely different shows.
I even tried searching on exact show title and it didn't find it using fire TV Plex app.
I had to guess which show was actually playing instead since it also won't show you the channel decimal number and lo and behold the correct show displayed in grid view came up but the title when I paused it never changed.
I would have had no way to get to that show without the grid.
And yes I have more frequent guide updates selected in Plex settings.
I even tried searching on exact show title and it didn't find it using fire TV Plex app.
I had to guess which show was actually playing instead since it also won't show you the channel decimal number and lo and behold the correct show displayed in grid view came up but the title when I paused it never changed.
I would have had no way to get to that show without the grid.
And yes I have more frequent guide updates selected in Plex settings.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:33 pm to CAD703X
weird. Never had any issues like that before. Everything worked just fine, it was just a different/unique view than most are used to.
I'm primarily using the Nvidia Shield though.
I'm primarily using the Nvidia Shield though.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:18 am to CarRamrod
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why have you ignored what im telling you about using a tv and its tuner?
Bump. Have you downloaded the hdhomerun app?? It's damn cool. As you change stations in Plex it automatically updates signal strength, etc in the app. No need to plug in a tv.
Here are my relative signal strength for abc,nbc,CBS,pbs and fox prior to adjusting my antenna. I'll report back afterwards as well.
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There are three percentages reported by the HDHomeRun -
Signal Strength (ss)
- raw power level as measured by the receiver
Signal Quality (snq)
- how clearly defined the digital data is
Symbol Quality (seq)
- Amount of correct or corrected data over the last second
The above definitions can be confusing, so a much simpler definition is to imagine listening to the radio:
- Signal Strength represents the volume
- Signal Quality represents how clearly you can hear the lyrics
- Symbol Quality indicates the percentage of the lyrics you could hear or guess correctly
As it turns out, Signal Strength is somewhat irrelevant; if your antenna isn't pointed properly, it doesn't matter how loud you turn up the volume, the static will prevent you from hearing the lyrics correctly. Similarly, amplifying a weak HDTV signal can result in a high signal strength but too much noise to decode the digital data correctly.
Use the Signal Strength for a rough idea of direction, but align the antenna for the highest Signal Quality, ignoring Signal Strength. When aimed correctly, Symbol Quality will show 100%, indicating no errors in the output. Splitters and amplifiers can introduce noise which will lower the Signal Quality, even if the Signal Strength increases.
Maybe I shouldn't frick with the antenna at all?
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:08 pm to efrad
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And for some reason for me the HDHomeRun is better at avoiding tuning errors/dropouts/skipping due to weakness in the signal way better than anything else I've ever used. So even though I have an antenna connection in every room (and they're all coming off of the same powered coax splitter, including the hdhomerun, so shouldn't be that), I pretty much always use Plex to watch OTA TV throughout the house
this is easy to understand. you want your GOLD signal coming into the hdhomerun which instantly transmogrifies this to ethernet and lets plex do its thing.
with antenna connections going all over the house you have multiple points of failure; signal loss, etc. hdhomerun should be on the strongest connection and using plex you can watch tv in any room from the SINGLE ETHERNETIZED hdhomerun input signal..not all that other coax spaghetti and multiple splitters, etc etc.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:14 pm to CAD703X
This seems like a LOT of work to save a few backs and not paying for cable
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:16 pm to dukeg
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This seems like a LOT of work to save a few backs and not paying for cable
its pretty simple. i just added lots of detail for someone who is interested but never tried this before.
are you really saying that visiting a couple of websites and ordering maybe $200 worth of stuff and never having to pay a penny again to watch HD tv is too much effort?
eta the planning is what takes time. when all the hardware came in i literally had everything done in less than an hour. it almost took more time to gather my tools and put them back than the actual install itself.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:28 pm to CAD703X
So minus locals, what do you use for espn and such channels? Cord cutting service?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:41 pm to CAD703X
Really helpful, I'm about to do this exact thing. I've been waiting over two weeks to be able to post on TVfool for advice on equipment, emailed them twice. Any suggestions on getting approved to post there?!?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:48 pm to dukeg
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what do you use for espn and such channels?
frick espn. if i want to watch LSU there's plenty of online options i can utilize without giving them another penny of my money.
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So minus locals
do you have any idea how much content is available OTA on a given day? you'd be shocked. i had 46 channels of content at any given moment and when i blocked the spanish & shopping networks i still have 27, 10-12 of which are HD.
eta here's a tiny sample of what JUST MY OTA CHOICES looks like at any given moment.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:52 pm to CAD703X
quote:i dont have a homerunHD. I have a hauppauge.
Have you downloaded the hdhomerun app??
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:17 pm to CAD703X
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this is easy to understand. you want your GOLD signal coming into the hdhomerun which instantly transmogrifies this to ethernet and lets plex do its thing.
with antenna connections going all over the house you have multiple points of failure; signal loss, etc. hdhomerun should be on the strongest connection and using plex you can watch tv in any room from the SINGLE ETHERNETIZED hdhomerun input signal..not all that other coax spaghetti and multiple splitters, etc etc.
As I said:
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So even though I have an antenna connection in every room (and they're all coming off of the same powered coax splitter, including the hdhomerun, so shouldn't be that)
I unplugged the TiVo that used to be used as my tuner, plugged in the hdhomerun right there instead. Nothing changed, there is still coax going to every room, with a splitter in the attic.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:32 pm to efrad
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Nothing changed, there is still coax going to every room, with a splitter in the attic.
what i'm saying is hdhomerun+plex >>>>>>> asking each tv to do its own OTA signal decoding using whatever is built into that tv model plus it eliminates any question as to interference somewhere along the line on those coax stretches.
the rest of the coax in your house just became irrelevant. you're using the built-in plex app on each tv to pull live tv from the server and the coax is unnecessary.
tl;dr hdhomerun does one thing very well..stabilizing & refining your OTA signal and its much better at it than anything built into random TV XYZ's OTA crap. let it do the work for your whole house.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:30 pm to CAD703X
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tl;dr hdhomerun does one thing very well..stabilizing & refining your OTA signal and its much better at it than anything built into random TV XYZ's OTA crap. let it do the work for your whole house.
cad, are you really trying to state my own 2.5 week old post from before you even had this setup back to me?
but:
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what i'm saying is hdhomerun+plex >>>>>>> asking each tv to do its own OTA signal decoding using whatever is built into that tv model plus it eliminates any question as to interference somewhere along the line on those coax stretches.
the rest of the coax in your house just became irrelevant. you're using the built-in plex app on each tv to pull live tv from the server and the coax is unnecessary.
Yes I know going from coax to ethernet as early as possible is best.
But my point is that using the exact same runs, the exact same scenarios for interference, etc. resulted in superior performance with HDHomeRun even at the same coax drop location.
i.e. plug TV into coax in living room. fox8 skips like a motherfricker.
next: plug TiVo into coax in living room. fox8 skips like a motherfricker.
next: plug in HDHomeRun into same coax in living room under EXACT same conditions as before. fox8 runs like a dream.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:39 pm to efrad
ok yes we're saying the same thing, just crossing wires. in short; hdhomerun is a better OTA reciever but i will still argue a pure point-to-point coax connected directly to hdhomerun beats splitting the signal, adding powered splitters, running coax to other rooms, etc.
i realize you had all the coax in place already but it opened my eyes how well hdhomerun + plex can effectively push live HDTV without any wires to every tv in your house.
something comcrap refused to give me..in fact they actively DISABLED the casting option when i tried to simply cast my entire android screen to a TV with a chromecast.
i hate comcast for so many reason but refusing to let me have wireless TV was at the top of the list. I JUST WANTED TO WATCH THE frickING LOCAL NEWS WHILE DRINKING MY COFFEE IN THE KITCHEN. 
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:55 pm to CAD703X
I’m not knocking what you’re doing, but I honestly see a bunch of garbage channels I’d never watch. To each his own I guess! 
Posted on 6/18/18 at 4:58 pm to CAD703X
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i will still argue a pure point-to-point coax connected directly to hdhomerun beats splitting the signal, adding powered splitters, running coax to other rooms, etc.
lol there is no argument, you're still just making points i already did:
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Yes I know going from coax to ethernet as early as possible is best.
When I got it I planned on going up in the attic and removing the splitter etc. and doing a straight run to the HDHomeRun. But I plugged it in first to test it out and it just worked and has been working fine for months so I've been too lazy to go up into the attic and start disconnecting other shite
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:04 pm to dukeg
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I’m not knocking what you’re doing, but I honestly see a bunch of garbage channels I’d never watch. To each his own I guess!
This is why I liked the standard plex view vs. the grid (traditional DVR) style view.
Grid view puts an emphasis on channels and tbh most of the OTA channels are pretty garbage for channel surfing/just sitting down and putting something random on.
However standard plex view which doesn't necessarily focus on what's on right now is nice. You can see a ton of programs available and select them for recording and watch them eventually. Even on the garbage OTA channels there's a ton of good programming as long as you don't mind that you'll be recording it for later. It beats paying for cable if you are on a budget.
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