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re: Business class AP vs whole home mesh units

Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:54 am to
If it was me I would put an AP on each floor including the basement. One unit at the top cranked way up might show a decent signal on all your devices, but it's a two-way street and the AP might not hear your end devices talking back. In general, multiple AP's with the radio turned down will result in a better experience than one AP turned all the way up.

Some of the mesh systems might coordinate and tune themselves appropriately, but I'm not sure. I do know that Ubiquiti's controller allows manual fine-tuning and it also has an auto optimization tool. But as someone else mentioned you might not want to insert yourself as the IT guy by going this route.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:12 am to
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n general, multiple AP's with the radio turned down will result in a better experience than one AP turned all the way up.


I totally agree with that. My only concern is I dont see many devices out there that allow the manual setting of WiFi output power. Is power output all automatically controlled these days? Would 2 units near each other automatically reduce each power output?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 2:48 pm to
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My only concern is I dont see many devices out there that allow the manual setting of WiFi output power.
You usually have to install aftermarket firmware like OpenWRT on consumer routers to control transmit power. UniFi gear though lets you choose the power level or leave it on auto.
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Is power output all automatically controlled these days? Would 2 units near each other automatically reduce each power output?
Not sure on gear that hides these settings from the user.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:12 pm to
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You usually have to install aftermarket firmware like OpenWRT on consumer routers to control transmit power. UniFi gear though lets you choose the power level or leave it on auto.


It seems this is more of a business class option these days. The TP-Link EAP610 and Netgear WAC214 both allow the manual control of transmit power but nothing to find in their residential lines.

I'm guessing there is something in WiFi 6 standards that provides better auto power control making it a moot point these days.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:34 pm to
One AP in the top floor ceiling may not provide enough coverage to the basement. I'd search for site survey software. There should be some free stuff out there and it would help you design this.

For me what scares me the most is how will you get the ethernet cable ran vertically through each floor? Where will access be? And if you get access you might as well pull multiple runs and have AP on each floor.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:37 am to
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For me what scares me the most is how will you get the ethernet cable ran vertically through each floor? Where will access be? And if you get access you might as well pull multiple runs and have AP on each floor.



The cable is already there. That is why they want to use it. The terminated cat6 cable currently protrudes from a hole in the ceiling in the hallway. I think a big reason they want the AP up there is to cover up that small hole, haha.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:00 pm to
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The cable is already there. That is why they want to use it. The terminated cat6 cable currently protrudes from a hole in the ceiling in the hallway. I think a big reason they want the AP up there is to cover up that small hole, haha.


I have to apologize I didn't see that the cabling was there.
Not near as daunting of a task now.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:36 pm to
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I have to apologize I didn't see that the cabling was there.
Not near as daunting of a task now.


No need to apologize! Thanks for the feedback.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 4:08 pm to
Just to provide some closure I ended up getting them to try the TP-Link Deco 2-pack. Talk about simple installation and setup, wow. I may want to try some in my own house.
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