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3018 CNC Router/Engraver
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:10 am
Anyone running a 3018 type CNC router? Just picked one up and having issues with generating useable gcode with Inkscape...
If I write the gcode by hand everything works fine for all axis's...with the gcode produced via Inkscape everything just goes nuts (tried dozens of different ways).
Before I tear down the generated code by hand to try and figure out why, if you are able to successfully generate code with inkscape or anything else what/how are you doing it?
If I write the gcode by hand everything works fine for all axis's...with the gcode produced via Inkscape everything just goes nuts (tried dozens of different ways).
Before I tear down the generated code by hand to try and figure out why, if you are able to successfully generate code with inkscape or anything else what/how are you doing it?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:08 pm to dakarx
I've used Mach 3 and Fusion 360 for machining years ago and recently got a 3d printer. My level of gcode knowledge is limited to the bare minimum I currently need to know, but maybe I can offer some advice.
1. I used Mach 3 to run my mill and Fusion 360 for CAD/CAM. I highly recommend both if you are going to be doing CNC milling/engraving. Caveat, that's also the only programs I tried.
2. Make sure you understand the G90s, particularly G90, G91 and G92. These directly impact how your machine is going to move and where it's going to cut.
Learning how the machine moves and exist in it's "realm", as I called it, was a big "ahha" moment for me that took me a minute to wrap my brain around.
3. Make sure your steps are calibrated correctly so that you are actually moving the exact distance you want to move.
4. A probe makes setups extremely easy.
5. Those chinese engravers are very prevalent, you should be able to find a plethora of videos on using them as well as some good starting/ending gcode to use in you CAM software. I would go down a rabbit hole on that info, look up gcode meanings as needed to understand anything you copy paste, when you think you understand something run it on the machine to check it's doing what you want (making sure you z-height is well above the bed in case it doesn't do what you expect), and keep the e-stop under your finger.
If you have any questions post them up and I may be able to help you out, no promised though. And bear in mind I know nothing about your machine and although I use inkscape for graphics, I had no idea it offered CAM functionality as well, infact I would make sure what it's spitting out is even complete gcode.
ETA: I would never run a program on my mill before watching it run in Fusion 360 so I could see exactly what it was going to do. Even then I still managed to crash the machine once in awhile.
1. I used Mach 3 to run my mill and Fusion 360 for CAD/CAM. I highly recommend both if you are going to be doing CNC milling/engraving. Caveat, that's also the only programs I tried.
2. Make sure you understand the G90s, particularly G90, G91 and G92. These directly impact how your machine is going to move and where it's going to cut.
Learning how the machine moves and exist in it's "realm", as I called it, was a big "ahha" moment for me that took me a minute to wrap my brain around.
3. Make sure your steps are calibrated correctly so that you are actually moving the exact distance you want to move.
4. A probe makes setups extremely easy.
5. Those chinese engravers are very prevalent, you should be able to find a plethora of videos on using them as well as some good starting/ending gcode to use in you CAM software. I would go down a rabbit hole on that info, look up gcode meanings as needed to understand anything you copy paste, when you think you understand something run it on the machine to check it's doing what you want (making sure you z-height is well above the bed in case it doesn't do what you expect), and keep the e-stop under your finger.
If you have any questions post them up and I may be able to help you out, no promised though. And bear in mind I know nothing about your machine and although I use inkscape for graphics, I had no idea it offered CAM functionality as well, infact I would make sure what it's spitting out is even complete gcode.
ETA: I would never run a program on my mill before watching it run in Fusion 360 so I could see exactly what it was going to do. Even then I still managed to crash the machine once in awhile.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:24 pm to dakarx
I'm running an XCarve but have a friend who used Inkscape a ton. He had trouble with gcode generation until he changed the units from mm to px in document properties. In the beginning, I was using Universal Gcode Sender to simulate my GCode before sending it to the machine. Its free and works well. Also, search Charley Thomas UGS Tutorial on the tube. UGS might be a good alternative to allow you to work out the kinks before crashing your machine.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 6:53 am to Fraid Knot
Thanks guys... I think I found the issue with Inkscape the orientation points were way off , I stumbled into UGS Yesterday morning and loaded up the insckape generated gcode, it showed the project demensions, because of the orientation points the cut was 700x900mm, rather different from my document size of 150x250. Manually moved the 'off document point' and rendered the gcode and ran it through UGS. Still takes a bit of manual editing for setting Spindle speed, Z depth, and feed rate for multiple passes and such for now. Gut she's alive and doing well, waiting or my end mill bits to arrive.
I've tried Fusion 360 for (the Windoze requirement is it's own BIG issue), I really hate the interface, I literally spend 10 more time hunting for how to do something simple than actually doing it.
None the less my baby CNC mill is up and doing as she should...Switching the operator's mindset back and forth from additive to subtractive processing needs some work and fine tuning.
I've tried Fusion 360 for (the Windoze requirement is it's own BIG issue), I really hate the interface, I literally spend 10 more time hunting for how to do something simple than actually doing it.
None the less my baby CNC mill is up and doing as she should...Switching the operator's mindset back and forth from additive to subtractive processing needs some work and fine tuning.

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