re: Who is your most hated Soccer player?

I presume you mean only current players.

boateng by a mile.

Half the Ghana team.

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(Probably because it happened to Robben and he screwed himself in a "boy who cried wolf" situation)

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Not sure, how that applies in this situation when Robben didn't even go down and fought through the blatant foul.

I also don't understand how you can say Puyol's was a "judgement call" and De Jong's wasn't. Yes, De Jong clearly kicked Alonso in the chest, but Puyol clearly grabbed a player from behind as the last defender.

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Webb isn't crapping all over himself because it's a WC final.

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Webb tried to salvage the World Cup Final by not ruining the game even more than the Spanish and Dutch players already were.

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And again playing a "what if" game for an event that happened in the final minutes when there were plenty of "what ifs" that happened earlier is just silly.

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I'm not playing a "what if", I'm simply stating for a Spanish supporter to call out the ref in that match is laughable.

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AUTigLN11

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Where is the train of logic and chronological dominion in your argument? Noticeably absent.

You are blustering about events which would not have occurred had this referee done his job starting in the 22nd minute.

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Ironic thing is... if he would have flopped, no doubt he would have gotten the call and puyol would have gotten red carded

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Logic says yes. But Webb was in Haz Mat Clean Up mode and trying to make amends for his previous blunders.

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How many times does that Puyol-Robben incident go uncalled when the ref is behind the action?

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not that often IMO considering the location of the incident.

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How many times does a studs-up kick to the chest go uncalled?

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likely to be a no call when 'the ref is behind the action'
I thought it was called and not carded. But its been a few days since the world cup finals

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How many times does that Puyol-Robben incident go uncalled when the ref is behind the action?

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Rarely does a blatant reach around grab of a player who is one on one with the goalie and nobody else within yards of the action go unnoticed.

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Ah a smart-arse. I see.

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Wasn't trying to be. just forgot if they called it and didn't card him as he deserved to be or it was total no call. Yea he prbly should have gotten a red card; maybe webb didnt see it completely and carded de jong off his reaction; or webb didnt want to send one team to ten men so early in the contest (ie refs shouldnt have that big of an impact mentality). Late in the game i remember thinking spain got lucky in not receiving alot of cards


I have centered a few games and ar'ed a few. granted it wasn't that competetive of games but i know the degree of dificulty to ref games which is why normally i dont bitch about centers. Offsides a little more so even though i know it is still hard.

My original point that brought this up of I thnk spain is overrated. It wasn't to condemn Webb or anything. I just feel thatit was a 1-0 that a different call or bounce and this whole spain/barca love fest would not have occured.

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they came out playing entirely too rash.

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I do too. I think they were trying to get spain out of thier game plan by playing physical at first. They never settled in until the second half when we got alot better soccer.