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re: United States of No World Cup v. Another Team Not Going to Russia | 6:30 p.m. CT (FS1)
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:58 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:58 am to pvilleguru
Which wing options would you have preferred? I thought he showed well in his very limited minutes. Nothing wrong with giving young players a taste of the national team to give them something to strive for.
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:07 am to etm512
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1) why not?
They aren't playing for their clubs. EPB has played 1 game while on loan, Weah only has 2 appearances as a sub, Hamid hasn't played since the last MLS season.
quote:Justen Glad for EPB. He's started every match for RSL since last June. Lletget for Weah. Back from injury, has played in all 3 Galaxy matches so far (started the last 2), can play either wing/CM/AM. Are there any other young keepers getting minutes? If nothing else, I would have brought in Guzan with the plan to start Steffen. If nothing else, it gives you a baseline in which to judge Steffen and some senior leadership in camp.
B)who would you have called in instead?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:09 am to etm512
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We really need a forward
I missed the game but watched some highlights. From the highlights, our defense looked pretty awful in the air. I saw lots of jump balls near our own goal that we lost and which a better team would have scored.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:13 am to pvilleguru
Arriola is another winger that I would have called before Weah. Weah would have been better off with the U20 team that just played 3 games in Europe.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:18 am to pvilleguru
Arriola is a known entity and DC United had a game this weekend.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:23 am to cwil177
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Arriola is a known entity
Still much more deserving of a call up than Weah. The senior team should not be calling up players with 2 professional appearances and <45 total minutes.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:31 am to pvilleguru
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The senior team should not be calling up players with 2 professional appearances and <45 total minutes.
well, its not like he was given a last minute spot on a World Cup roster in place of a more deserving hero. so there have been far more egregious examples in recent history.
and, especially this year, it makes all the sense in the world to bring in as many promising kids as possible, especially ones with national options. throw precedent out the window, bring in anyone with a pulse and kick the tires.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:34 am to cwil177
Brooks Lennon is another guy we could have called.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:36 am to cigsmcgee
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especially ones with national options.
Of the players we called up, the only one I could think of that would possibly pick another nation is Antonee.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:38 am to cigsmcgee
For the conservation of bringing in players before others, is there some kind of limit of players that we could have brought in instead of one player or another for practicing in camp?
Saying this guy should have been brought in instead of the other is sort of pointless if we have an unlimited number or spots in camp/practice.
Also, bringing is more players that we are familiar with or already have seen in competition doesn't help vs recognizing any new talents in very "non-competitive" year.
I say bring in as many dual citizen and/or possible upcoming future talents this year. We don't have any tournaments this year. This year is like a gray area in our development process.
Saying this guy should have been brought in instead of the other is sort of pointless if we have an unlimited number or spots in camp/practice.
Also, bringing is more players that we are familiar with or already have seen in competition doesn't help vs recognizing any new talents in very "non-competitive" year.
I say bring in as many dual citizen and/or possible upcoming future talents this year. We don't have any tournaments this year. This year is like a gray area in our development process.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:41 am to Shane4689
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This year is like a gray area in our development process
The senior team isn't really about development. If we were concerned about development, then Weah definitely should have been with the U20s.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:42 am to pvilleguru
i agree, but after jonathan gonzalez im all about the senior team being more than hospitable to promising youth.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:42 am to Shane4689
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For the conservation of bringing in players before others, is there some kind of limit of players that we could have brought in instead of one player or another for practicing in camp?
We only had one game. You don't want to call in 40 players for one camp where you only get 4-5 practices.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:45 am to Shane4689
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Also, bringing is more players that we are familiar with or already have seen in competition doesn't help vs recognizing any new talents in very "non-competitive" year.
Sure it helps. If you are trying to judge where players stand in your pool, you at least need to bring in a few guys that you know are at least on the fringe of the NT so you have something to base the new guys on.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:46 am to pvilleguru
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The senior team isn't really about development. I
It is now, unfortunately. if we were stacked in the right age ranges it wouldnt be, but between now and Qatar its all about blooding the kids who will be the core in '22.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:49 am to cigsmcgee
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It is now, unfortunately. if we were stacked in the right age ranges it wouldnt be, but between now and Qatar its all about blooding the kids who will be the core in '22.
How much development can you get in 5 days? That's how many practices this squad had together. At least 2 of those days has to go toward putting the game plan in place. Development lies solely at the feet of the youth teams and clubs.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:59 am to pvilleguru
It's still going to be another 2 months before we can bring any of these guys back in. There's just no time for development, just instructions and observations.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:03 am to pvilleguru
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How much development can you get in 5 days?
not much, but 5 days here and a couple weeks there, over the next 4 years, all adds up.
i never said it was US Soccers job to teach these players how to play. but it is their job to start molding them into a cohesive national team with an identity and chemistry.
im not sure what you would have liked to see from the roster. Demspey, Bradley, and the old gang? Gold Cup and lesser regulars like Zardes and Arriola?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:14 am to cigsmcgee
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im not sure what you would have liked to see from the roster.
Just guys that are getting regular minutes. That should be the minimum for getting called up. If it's late March and you havent played a game since October, too bad, Hamid. If you want a call up for the USMNT, earn more than 2 professional appearances, Tim. Instead of coming over here just to sit on the bench, EPB would have been better off staying with his club trying to fit in better there.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:21 am to pvilleguru
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just instructions and observations.
Bingo
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