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Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:30 pm to kilo
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Jones and Bradley both did a good job at slowing down Panama in the middle.
Maybe, but this was a result of poor touches and bad play from Panama as much or more than it was good play from either Jones or Bradley. Jones age is starting to show and Bradley just isn't that good anymore.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:30 pm to kilo
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I dont agree.
Go back and watch how many passing lanes Bradley cut off and how many times Jones helped Zusi out, and filled in on the right to allow Pulisic to push up.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:32 pm to Broski
On another note, Villafana went 180 minutes these last two games and looked good.
Fabs to the midfield!!!
Fabs to the midfield!!!
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:33 pm to mynamebowl
Bradley has actually been really good defensively the last two games.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:40 pm to Broski
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Go back and watch how many passing lanes Bradley cut off and how many times Jones helped Zusi out, and filled in on the right to allow Pulisic to push up.
That's a fantasy. Zusi was actually isolated for the better part of the first half and held his own, thankfully.
I agree with you on supporting Pulisic on the other side.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:48 pm to kilo
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Zusi was actually isolated for the better part of the first half and held his own
For the first 30 or so minutes sure, but once Panama attack started keying in on him for the rest of the half and the 2nd, Jones did a lot of overlapping with him until Bedoya came in.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:07 am to Broski
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Zusi was actually isolated for the better part of the first half
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For the first 30 or so minutes sure
So you agree with me?
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Panama attack started keying in on him for the rest of the half and the 2nd, Jones did a lot of overlapping with him
Which kind of fricked the formation moving forward right? Jones was the pseudo 5 at that point while Bradley supported the attack on the other side...with his horrible touches.
All that talk from you all about Jurgen not being able to adjust his tactics and Bruce was seemingly helpless on the road in Panama.
Its always been the talent pool. Hopefully, that changes over the next 20 years and hopefully, some of you realize the real problem.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:09 am to kilo
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was seemingly helpless
Huh?
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All that talk from you all about Jurgen not being able to adjust his tactics
In your opinion, what were Jurgen's tactics?
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 12:10 am
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:20 am to Broski
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In your opinion, what were Jurgen's tactics?
You first princess.
What did he do wrong and why is Bruce Arena the answer?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:27 am to kilo
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You first princess.
So you're incapable of having a debate without melting/namecalling. Thanks for outing yourself there.
Anyway, Jurgen had no defined tactics, that was pretty well established despite what he said about "taking the attack to the team". Yeah, that never happened. We were getting out possessed like crazy while playing guys out of position. At times, we tried to build from the back, but Jurgen making comments like "anyone can play left back." showed that he simply had the vision of playing his most talented 11 players and just rolling the ball out.
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why is Bruce Arena the answer?
The answer to what? The answer to get us to the world cup? If that's the question we're asking, then getting 4 points is why Bruce is the "answer". If we're going from a tactical perspective, Bruce has always relied on pressing and working on the counter. The biggest difference though is what literally every player has said during this camp "we know what our role with the team is." They didn't know that with Jurgen.
If you're under the impression that Bruce is supposed to revolutionize US Soccer, you're going to be disappointed. He already did that in 2002. This was a band aid hire because we were in serious danger of missing Russia because of Jurgen.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:37 am to Broski
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On another note, Villafana went 180 minutes these last two games and looked good.
Fabs to the midfield!!!
A diamond of Pulisic, Nagbe, FabJo and Bradley would be pretty sweet.
I also still love the idea of a future 3-5-2 with FabJo and Yedlin as wing backs with Pulisic as the No. 10. Just doesn't really work for Nagbe.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:41 am to WarSlamEagle
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3-5-2 with FabJo and Yedlin as wing backs with Pulisic as the No. 10
Yep, especially when we have two center backs in Cameron and Brooks who are good with the ball at their feet, too.
It almost makes too much sense, but alas...
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:42 am to Broski
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So you're incapable of having a debate without melting/namecalling. Thanks for outing yourself there.
This is your MO man. "Nobody knows soccer like you"
Laughable.
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Anyway, Jurgen had no defined tactics, that was pretty well established despite what he said about "taking the attack to the team". Yeah, that never happened. We were getting out possessed like crazy while playing guys out of position. At times, we tried to build from the back, but Jurgen making comments like "anyone can play left back." showed that he simply had the vision of playing his most talented 11 players and just rolling the ball out.
What is this?
Im not going to get into the silly parts of this post but Jurgen acknowledged that talent deficiency in the U.S. talent pool and at least tried to toy with it to overcome these things. He was ridiculed here for toying around trying to overcome this stuff.
We do not have the talent to compete at the highest stage, let alone dominate our weak CONCACAF.
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he answer to what? The answer to get us to the world cup? If that's the question we're asking, then getting 4 points is why Bruce is the "answer". If we're going from a tactical perspective, Bruce has always relied on pressing and working on the counter. The biggest difference though is what literally every player has said during this camp "we know what our role with the team is." They didn't know that with Jurgen.
So we go back to what was....seems like a solid plan to move US soccer forward. At least everyone "knows their role"
Posted on 3/29/17 at 12:46 am to kilo
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This is your MO man. "Nobody knows soccer like you"
Laughable.
What in the frick are you talking about?
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Jurgen acknowledged that talent deficiency in the U.S. talent pool and at least tried to toy with it to overcome these things.
Huh? What did he do differently than any other previous national team coach? Call in Alan Gordon?
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So we go back to what was....seems like a solid plan to move US soccer forward.
Again, the "moving forward" ideal of this cycle was thrown out the window by getting 0 points and a -5 goal differential in our first two matches. At this point it's solely about getting to Russia and then after that, Bruce retires and you bring in someone who can take this program to the next step.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:01 am to Broski
Which won't happen until the talent pool improves.
I at least give Jurgen credit for making the most of a shite sandwich and or at least trying to fill "holes".
We will see what Arena does with the same shite. We already know how this is going to end.
I at least give Jurgen credit for making the most of a shite sandwich and or at least trying to fill "holes".
We will see what Arena does with the same shite. We already know how this is going to end.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:03 am to kilo
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making the most of a shite sandwich
0 pts in 2 the Hex matches is making the most?
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Which won't happen until the talent pool improves.
It is improving.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 1:04 am
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:14 am to Broski
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0 pts in 2 the Hex matches is making the most?
vs Mexico and at Costa Rica.
Come on man. Those are the points we were going to drop and be ok, just happened to be the first two matches. Toughest matches on our schedule.
Now we are swimming in the hex with 3pts vs Honduras and 1 point at Panama.
Really?
We are better off with the change mid cycle?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:19 am to kilo
Well, Bruce is actually playing guys in their right positions, so... yeah.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:19 am to kilo
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Those are the points we were going to drop
We were going to lose to Mexico... in Columbus? Something that had never happened before.
We were going to lose 4-0 to Costa Rica, our worst Hex loss ever?
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We are better off with the change mid cycle?
Yes. Jurgen takes his foot off the gas after 3-0 v. Honduras and we still have a negative goal differential.
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