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re: Trouble sleeping tonight, lads

Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:56 pm to
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I’m going to need a citation for this, chief, because I’m pretty sure you pull shite like this out of your arse just to sound knowledgeable when I really think you have no idea what you’re talking about.




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U.S. Soccer released their annual form 990 on February 20th, over 320 days after the end of their fiscal year. The federation’s fiscal year ends March 31st which means that the tax filing is normally due on August 15th, but multiple extensions were requested resulting in a delivery date of February 15th. Coincidentally or not, that’s five days after the U.S. Soccer presidential election occurred in Orlando.

Unfortunately, the audited financial statements have not been released, which have more detail and commentary to address the results, but some interesting figures are available. As of March 31st, 2017 USSF had $148 million in net assets, up over $50 million from the year prior. Much has been made over the last year about the reported surplus that Sunil Gulati built up over his tenure, and that figure certainly galvanizes that claim. Over $52 million of those assets sit in accounts receivable with $14 million sitting in the opposite accounts payable line. But the key piece of information is that over $110 million is currently in publicly traded securities. The debate over what the best use of those funds should be has been bandied about this past year, and throughout the presidential campaign. Certainly some should be secured for a rainy day, but some should be put toward the true mission of the federation.

USSF reported $152 million in revenue in 2017; keep in mind that fiscal year included the revenue from the Copa America Centenario which took place in the summer of 2016. There was $50 million in contributed revenue claimed for the “Administration of Commercial Rights for Copa America Centenario.” That was the main driver of the roughly $25 million increase in revenue compared with the prior year.

The bulk of the remaining revenues coming from the Program Service revenues which totaled $97.0 million. That included Sponsorship and Royalties (i.e. SUM) at $48.9 million, National Team and Open Cup games at $33.2 million, Membership dues of $10.2 million, coaching school revenue of $1.8 million and $3 million of other.

The federation reported over $106 million in expenses and some might bring about some nausea. Jurgen Klinsmann was paid $3.275 million in taxable compensation. Bruce Arena was paid $400,000 for his partial year at the helm. Jill Ellis was compensated just over $270,000, less than the staff attorney Gregory Fike.


how about a nice side of go frick yourself

did you play soccer growing up at a travel or higher level?

those league fees get sent up to USSF
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:59 pm to
Still doesn't answer the question

Where is the proof that the profits are coming from pay to play? And where is the proof that they aren't investing it in building the game and player development? You didn't provide any of that, so have a nice cup of frick you too
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Still doesn't answer the question

Where is the proof that the profits are coming from pay to play? And where is the proof that they aren't investing it in building the game and player development? You didn't provide any of that, so have a nice cup of frick you too




where do you think absurd league fees for travel go to?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:10 pm to
Coaches, fields, refs, travel, hotels, locals, state, regional, and national federation. Can you tell me how much the US made from pay to play fees last year? Can you prove that none of that budget is being put into development? I don't think you can. You're spitballing.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Coaches, fields, refs, travel, hotels, locals, state, regional, and national federation


yep you never played soccer growing up

our coaches where not paid unless you are at a high level set up

fields sure normal upkeep

travel and hotels

thats on the parents my man unless its a high level/pro set up

or included in a club fee the parents pay even before the league fee
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locals, state, regional, and national federation.


each level charges each other to be in the system which all makes its way to USSF thus sky rocketing fees

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Can you tell me how much the US made from pay to play fees last year?


would have to dig through their report if they even make than number public

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Can you prove that none of that budget is being put into development?


You see any free USSF youth sets up showing up all over the country at the grass roots level?

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I don't think you can. You're spitballing.



No you are just going to bat for the USSF
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:17 pm to
Alright my dude, you still haven't found me any statistics to back up your claim
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:22 pm to
its in their report they made almost 4 million in just regristration fees for kids alone last year

10 million in total for coaches, refs etc

nothing in the report says money out for youth development
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:23 pm to
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Alright my dude, you still haven't found me any statistics to back up your claim




LINK


Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:23 pm to
Cool. Wanna quote the relevant numbers here?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:29 pm to
the report won't let me copy and past off of it

but there is nothing in their for grass roots level stuff on the expenses

only thing is coaching, which clearly is for with in the system and putting on clinics to get certs.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:39 pm to
That's been my point the whole time we can speculate all we want but USSF isn't the most transparent so it's hard to know what they do with the money.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:43 pm to
The report clearly states how much they bring in from the grass roots level charging people to play.

But we have not seen any give back from the federation in terms of free grass roots development

i know you are smart enough to put two and two together

don't back track with a less aggressive stance now

own that shite or man up and say you are wrong
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
99949 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:50 pm to
Mate our English side are simply outclassed this evening in Lyons
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:52 pm to
The german's accent is killing me
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:53 pm to
Mate which American hubs fly directly to Leeds?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:53 pm to
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The report clearly states how much they bring in from the grass roots level charging people to play.


Which is how much?

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But we have not seen any give back from the federation in terms of free grass roots development

Again, citation needed

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own that shite or man up and say you are wrong

Oh you of all people
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
99949 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:54 pm to
Not Delta maybe British air out of NY or Boston
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:56 pm to
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Which is how much?
roughly 4 million just at the youth level

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Again, citation needed


its in the fricking link

don't be lazy

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Oh you of all people


i own up to my shite when proven wrong
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:57 pm to
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roughly 10 million


That's really not a lot bro, considering the millions of kids playing the sport in this country

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its in the fricking link

don't be lazy

I'm not doing your work for you
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i own up to my shite when proven wrong


Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:09 pm to
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That's really not a lot bro, considering the millions of kids playing the sport in this country


I don't know what privileged life you come from

but in a normal world when you make 4 million a year in profit and don't have to reinvest it that ends up being a huge profit

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I'm not doing your work for you


bc you know you are wrong

you have a link to the source material but won't click it
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