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Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:17 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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Word is Arsenal is getting in the picture for Juan Mata.
Does that mean we are out of it for Alvarez? Whatever prices were being bandied about were fricking terrible. I feel like if we kept it under wraps we would have gotten him, but as soon as other clubs heard they tried to jump in.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:26 pm to crazy4lsu
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Word is Arsenal is getting in the picture for Juan Mata.
I hope he is at LFC next season...
Good lord, I just read this in the ESPN article...I know Arsene is tight, but I didnt realize you guys have never spent more than that...
Arsene Wenger evidently rates the 23-year-old highly, and is willing to smash the club's previous record transfer fee of £13 million when bringing Andrei Arshavin to the Emirates from Zenit St Petersburg.
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:28 pm to TFTC
'Pool and Arsenal better hope that Man City don't get into the race, as they'll eventually price everyone out. He's their second option after Sanchez. Mata is also Barca's second option if Sanchez doesn't go there.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:33 pm to crazy4lsu
Ive worried about them, with the Silva connection...They (and Chelsea) seriously are on the verge of ruining football for me...
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:08 pm to TFTC
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They (and Chelsea) seriously are on the verge of ruining football for me...
PSG looks to be on that road as well.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:25 pm to glassman
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PSG looks to be on that road as well.
Malaga, too...the just spent 25M on Joaquin...dudes 30 yrs old...
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:35 pm to TFTC
Interestingly enough, I don't think the Financial Fair Play rules will do anything to stop this. I remember reading somewhere that Man U has something like £200 million in liquid assets that they are just sitting on. My theory is that they will use this money while to circumvent the FFP, since up to £26 million is allowed in losses as long as the owner does not lend money to the club. The earliest UEFA can enforce any punitive measures is 2014.
I wish we could trust UEFA to have a transfer advisory board, which could artificially limit transfers by accounting for player performance and years remaining on the contract, but I think they are as corrupt as FIFA.
I wish we could trust UEFA to have a transfer advisory board, which could artificially limit transfers by accounting for player performance and years remaining on the contract, but I think they are as corrupt as FIFA.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:38 pm to crazy4lsu
Bayern seems to be trying to buy up the teenagers. They're heavily linked with Dale Jennings and Takashi Usami
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:40 pm to hendersonshands
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Bayern seems to be trying to buy up the teenagers.
Doing the Arsene Wenger.
1) Buy teenager
2) ????
3) Profit
Sadly, that's how it usually goes.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:42 pm to crazy4lsu
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I wish we could trust UEFA
Follow the money trail. Teams like Arsenal and the Bundesliga that actually run teams like a business are fricked.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:43 pm to glassman
Owning a soccer team is not profitable, nor should one expect it to be.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:47 pm to cwil177
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Owning a soccer team is not profitable, nor should one expect it to be.
The transfer fees teams pay certainly don't help. The new UEFA rules only state that they want teams to break even, though, but I don't think the majority of teams will be able to do it.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 10:49 pm to cwil177
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Owning a soccer team is not profitable, nor should one expect it to be.
Why not? It is a business.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 11:16 pm to glassman
Pick up Soccernomics. It is a fantastic read, and it can explain it far better than I can. Basically players cost a lot of money, and teams end up spiraling into debt. Someone comes in, buys the debt and then owns the team, only to see that the same pattern occurs. The book also explains why soccer is not a business in the traditional sense and why treating it as such leads to massive losses. Again, I'm paraphrasing but trust me on this one. How many successful clubs do you see making massive profits?
Posted on 6/26/11 at 11:30 pm to cwil177
Your post is precisely why I am an Arsenal fan.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 12:34 am to Friend of OBUDan
God I would frickin looooove to sign Mata. Interest in someone like him makes me think one of Cesc/Nasri are gone.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 10:01 am to NOSA
BBC reporting Arsenal's board are willing to sell Cesc if they can agree with Barca on a price. They quote a "senior Arsenal official."
Looks like the inevitable is finally happening.
Also, with regards to sports franchises, I don't think running one needs to strictly be a business where you're trying to maximize profits, but that doesn't mean they should be toys for wealthy billionaires to throw away money. Obviously European soccer is different than American sports, but the Yankees and Red Sox make bank every year despite their massive payrolls. The big Euro clubs should be able to do the same, but instead they are the ones in the most debt.
Looks like the inevitable is finally happening.
Also, with regards to sports franchises, I don't think running one needs to strictly be a business where you're trying to maximize profits, but that doesn't mean they should be toys for wealthy billionaires to throw away money. Obviously European soccer is different than American sports, but the Yankees and Red Sox make bank every year despite their massive payrolls. The big Euro clubs should be able to do the same, but instead they are the ones in the most debt.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 10:06 am to Friend of OBUDan
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BBC reporting Arsenal's board are willing to sell Cesc if they can agree with Barca on a price.
I wouldn't be surprised to see more tactical flexibility without Cesc. Probably see a lot more of the 4-4-2. The 4-3-3 should still be used for big games and European matches, and luckily we will still have the forward personal to run that.
Also I hope to dear god that we can get around £40 million for Cesc.
Posted on 6/27/11 at 10:10 am to crazy4lsu
Anywhere north of £35mil would work for me.
Also, seems like we're still after Alvarez. I'm with you in not being a big fan of the move.
Also, seems like we're still after Alvarez. I'm with you in not being a big fan of the move.
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