re: Standing sections at EPL stadiums

I thought the Heysel thing was because a wall between fans got knocked down, and that was the main cause, rather than the fighting that ensued.

I'm tentatively in favour of standing. I'm too young to have been to a big club in the days of standing, but I am old enough to have been to gigs and music festivals that were over sold and over crowded. I've been in crowds that were so tight you couldn't turn back. That's not safe. But I think a less packed standing space could be. If you had a correct ratio of fans to space, I think it could work.

Won't happen though.


ETA: Just a guess, but I reckon the police would be massively against it. If they even threatened to pull out of policing games, clubs would lose their liability insurance and I think this means they would lose their safety certificates and be unable to sell tickets. So by that mechanism the police could kill the idea stone dead, if the FA, PL, UEFA and FIFA don't.

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the fans who were sitting next to the wall

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they were not sitting. These were terraces.

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There are two. Sorry, brah forgot about you.

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That's cool, I knew there were others. I've been saving most of my Villa rants this season for one of their fan forums. Isn't ohiovol a supporter too?

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Houllier has to be gone right?

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I hope so, but I have a feeling he's safe. It's not like Houllier campaigned for the job like Eriksson or Koeman did. Lerner and co. approached him and convinced him to take it, so they probably feel obligated to keep him. His record is horrifying though, no matter how you spin it. There are/were too many good players at the club when he arrived to be a point above relegation.