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Serie A Season Long Thread 2012-2013

Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:50 pm
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4984 posts
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:50 pm
I see there are a few people that watch.


Juve has this one in the bag, if they sign Jovetic it will be an even bigger run away, he's solid. Great chance for Roma to put a lock on a CL spot for years with ACM and Inter basically relegated to mid table clubs. With financial fair play coming in, right now is the best time to secure a spot at the top for years.

IMO, somebody should poach Abate from ACM, he's a great player, and super underrated.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 7/20/12 at 9:31 pm to
I agree that Juve is the clear favorite for the scudetto. Only a Pirlo injury would likely make it interesting.
Signing Jovetic would be huge. I like him as much as any other young attacking player that's moved this summer.


However, I don't see AC Milan and Inter dropping too far this year or in the near future. Both of their shedding of payroll for aging players in general is a good move. Inter were paying a fortune to guys like Maicon and Julio Cesar who simply haven't been all that good for almost 2 years.

AC Milan selling Silva hurts them but they're still really strong and will spend more money this summer (even if not the amount they made from PSG.

It will take both a little while to realistically challenge for, say, a CL final but they'll not fall too far behind Europe's elite.


Roma will hopefully take advantage to capture a CL spot this year but realistically are probably still a year away from all of the youth coming into their own.


I'd guess this year the table, based on strength on paper, should look something like this unless there's some surprise transfers:

1. Juve

2. AC Milan

Then 3-6 being pretty close:

3. Roma
4. Inter
5. Napoli (if they can work out the contract negotiations to keep Cavani)
6. Lazio

with these having some hope of a Europa League spot:

7. Palermo
8. Atalanta
9. Fiorentina (if they keep Jovetic)
10. Catania
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 4:46 pm
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:02 am to
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with ACM and Inter basically relegated to mid table clubs.


Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28416 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 9:19 am to
Inter will never be midtable as long as they have those sweet arse jerseys
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4984 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 10:08 am to
ACM is refunding season ticket holders. Their team is crap. Juve need to put in an abate bid ASAP.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17907 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 11:30 am to
I remember when Inter and Milan finished 5th and 6th respectively a little over a decade ago (I'm sure wm72 remembers that season too). Those sides were crap compared to now and still weren't midtable bad.

Milan might have unloaded some of their big names, but they know what they're doing. This is something that probably should've begun a few years ago, but they wanted to hold on to the aging stars and paper over the cracks with flashy signings (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham, Ibra, etc.) to get this recent generation one last CL title. Now they've shed massive payrolls and have money to reinvest.

As far as Abate, I really like him, but he was underrated two seasons ago. Not anymore. In fact, he was kind of dodgy at times last season. Milan still aren't going to let Juve poach him though.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4984 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:11 pm to
Heathy Pato is worth 3 league places. Obviously Milan won't sell him lol.
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Heathy Pato is worth 3 league places. Obviously Milan won't sell him lol.


So if they win the title this season and he misses the entire year through injury, where would they have finished had he been healthy?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4984 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

So if they win the title this season and he misses the entire year through injury, where would they have finished had he been healthy?


Won't happen, their defense is crap without silva. Look at last year. Heck even 46,770,990 year old Nesta is better than their current CB's.

Silva is a spectacular player, and he learned from the best. Center ACM D was quite good when the two of them were healthy, as Silva had the pace to cover when Nesta committed. Milan just dumped both of them, although nesta is obviously past his prime. The big games, i'm sure they will be ready to play... but the smaller games, they will drop points. That is what sinks you in the Serie A. Pato and Boetang are both superb players IMO, some of the best in the world. One is underrated, and one is fricking injured all the time. Maybe he should stop screwing Silvio's daughter so much and work on his muscle durability.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

j1897


I certainly agree with you about Milan taking a step back but I still see them as the team to beat to finish second in the Campionato.

I think they'll buy another pacier, ball playing CB like you mention to pair (even if not on Silva's level) with Mexes, who's solid if not great, and also have the younger Italian CB Francesco Acerbi they bought from Chievo/Genoa.

I see them trying to buy Rolando from Porto or bidding against Roma for a younger CB like Angelo Ogbonna, German CB Serdar Tasci or Bruno Uvini from Sao Paolo.


However, I completely agree that Milan's success the past 2 years in Serie A has been that they've so consistently punished mid to lower table sides (which is probably harder to do in Serie A than anywhere). Ibra, say what you will about him against elite defenders, was the biggest reason for this as he's just a wrecking machine against lower tier teams.



This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 12:01 am
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4984 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 10:56 pm to
So true about Ibra, I can't be sure, but i'm almost certain even after all his years at Inter and ACM, he never scored a goal against Juve.


Juve's biggest advantage last year was conditioning, Conte beat them into the ground last year to get ready for the season, and it showed. As the games drug on, you saw a considerably less potent Juve side, and if ACM wasn't battle Barca at the end of the year, they might have won the title. Rest was key to Juve's playing style. This year it will be depth... hopefully. I still don't think we have the depth to play Conte's style in 3 competitions... maybe Napoli, maybe Roma... somebody might put up a fight for the league.

We(as Juve) need a Bobo Vieri, we could dominate and make a decent run in the CL with a finisher like him. Tough to find another like that dude though.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 7/21/12 at 11:50 pm to

I
quote:

We(as Juve) need a Bobo Vieri, we could dominate and make a decent run in the CL with a finisher like him. Tough to find another like that dude though.


Yeah, I actually was expecting both Matri and Borriello to do better last year. I used to live in Cagliari during summers and have always followed them more than most people. Matri was always consistent in finishing until last year even if he's not that spectacular with the ball at his feet.
Borriello doesn't add much in build-up but he did pretty well at Roma the previous year in finishing through balls from Totti etc. . . Was expecting him to do about the same (say 10-12 goals in 20-25 games) for Juve.

I'll still be curious to see who you guys end up.

Signing Isla will be huge for depth since he's so versatile.


quote:

Rest was key to Juve's playing style. This year it will be depth... hopefully. I still don't think we have the depth to play Conte's style in 3 competitions... maybe Napoli, maybe Roma... somebody might put up a fight for the league.


Juve really needs to find a midfield to grind out results against mid to lower table without Pirlo if you're advancing in the CL. I was surprised you didn't get Verratti as I can't imagine he'd have chosen PSG if Juve offered similar money.

Roma and Napoli's problem is that while they both have the quality to beat anyone, neither have the type squad depth and even playing style to avoid dropping too many points along the way to the Catanias and Genoas. I do think either can challenge Milan and Inter for the CL spots but unless Juve has a lot of injury issues, it''l be a huge task for either to seriously challenge them for the scudetto.

This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 11:59 pm
Posted by winner
New Orleans,LA
Member since Jan 2007
2432 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:01 pm to
Any news on how Al Jazeera Sports Network plans on broadcasting Serie A games this season?


Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Any news on how Al Jazeera Sports Network plans on broadcasting Serie A games this season?


Well, at least some movement in that they have a real website and claim they will stream the Supercoppa. (Their streaming is better quality than ESPN3).

However, the website right now still has no info yet on exactly which carriers they'll definitely have. It prompts you to contact your provider regardless of where you are.

Some friends in California have called TimeWarner and they claim they'll be carrying it there but mine in NY says they don't know.

You should bookmark their website if you haven't for the streaming and to check for which providers in your area will have it.

Sucks that's it coming down to the last minute like this as I honestly watch more Serie A than anything else on TV so will change to whoever has it.

https://beinsport.tv/
Posted by winner
New Orleans,LA
Member since Jan 2007
2432 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:31 pm to
Appreciate the response
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:33 pm to
just requested beIN via their website. hopefully it's picked up, even though i dont really follow those leagues that closely. better to have than not
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

just requested beIN via their website. hopefully it's picked up, even though i dont really follow those leagues that closely. better to have than not


Yeah, I watch Serie A a lot but would hate to lose coverage of any of the big 4 and Ligue 1 as well -- which I actually really enjoy.

I'd guess that in the future BeIn will be as accessible as FSC but I worry that it may not be right away.

That the website right now is so geared to subscribers requesting coverage must mean that they're still negotiating price with everyone even with the season about to start.






Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:47 pm to
i'm hoping that since goltv lost their other rights, they will load up on bundesliga matches. i dont know if they have a limit on how many they can show or what. i'm afraid they may be becoming obsolete in the near future.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

i'm hoping that since goltv lost their other rights, they will load up on bundesliga matches. i dont know if they have a limit on how many they can show or what. i'm afraid they may be becoming obsolete in the near future.


I hope they will too. Losing El Classico is probably half their audience for an entire year (especially since they show repeats of it about every other program). Not sure what South American rights they still have. BeIN has Brasil as well now.

It seems like the best case scenario would be FOX making a bid for Bundesliga to replace losing Serie A, or maybe down the road BeIN getting a second channel like FS+ and bidding on them.

Not sure how long the Bundesliga contract with GolTV is?

Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 8/8/12 at 12:04 am to
i just looked it all up, they just signed a new contract with goltv until 2015. all i could find was what the old contract called for in terms of broadcasting, 3 matches a weekend on goltv and 2 sub licensed to espn3/deportes.

it also mentioned bundesliga ratings were up 85% so hopefully this means they will show more matches.

ETA this will be the first season under the new contract
This post was edited on 8/8/12 at 12:04 am
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