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re: Rank These US Players

Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:24 pm to
While I agree with the premise of your post, Conor Casey isn't in the same stratosphere as Jan Koller, not in size nor ability.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:42 pm to
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BTW Bornstiein is the worst player to put on a national team shirt since we quit using college players.
Yea I may have been overdoing a bit with that one but he was terrible and should have never seen the field.

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you're just oozing ignorance in this thread.
You are defending a player who hurt us more times than helped us. If Bob Bradley didn't love him so much he would have never been called up. Calling someone ignorant and then saying Bornstein was a solid player is plain ridiculous.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:46 pm to
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Not even close to being true.
I exaggerated a bit but please don't tell me you are defending the great LB Johnathon Bornstein too. We have had discussions in the Arsenal threads. I respect your opinions and insights as I hope you do mine. But really Bornstein? He was terrible.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:47 pm to
Outlandish, ignorant statements tend to be the only thing that brings crazy4lsu out of the Arsenal thread these days.

which is a little dissapointing because, I do agree he brings good content to the board.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 4:48 pm
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:51 pm to
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Outlandish, ignorant statements tend to be the only thing that brings crazy4lsu out of the Arsenal thread these days.

which is a little dissapointing because, I do agree he brings good content to the board.


Yea I know. I'm posting things about Diaby injury news, France fans booing Giroud, and Arsenal possibly looking into Drogba meanwhile the Arsenal thread is off on a tangent about kits mostly by posters who never post. If I would have known I had to disrespect Bornstein to get him out I would have done it sooner.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 10:41 pm to
I'm not defending Bornstein at all. I'm simply pointing out that the NT has capped some absolutely terrible players, especially in the 90's.

I don't like Bornstein as a player, but LB is the hardest position to fill at the national level because of so few natural LB's actually exist and can play. Bornstein has earned 38 caps for us, and he's perfectly fine for low-level CONCACAF sides. It's just that our player pool is not that deep, which is why Bornstein is an option in the first place.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:17 pm to
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Bornstein-2 Gooch-3 Clark-5 Beckerman-4 Edu-6 Findley-1


Err... I didn't base mine on the last game, but instead a few of their past games.

Bornstein was decent for a little bit but got progressively worse. His contract status kinda fricked him towards the end of his last few USMNT call ups.

Gooch had a lot of mixed games. He looked great and a lot of people saying "Gooch is back" back a few games. He was making attacking runs through the center of the defense.

Clark had a pretty good game, last call up and he had a 90th minute goal. If I'm not mistaking abt the time. He blew it in the World Cup. meh.

Beckerman, I'm biased. I don't get it. I don't think he brings anything to the table that Edu/Jones/Williams doesn't bring. He is an ok talent for CONCACAF games. I can see using him as a sub.

Edu, is probably the lesser of the evils. He has had a few good games and as of RIGHT NOW and I had to pick one of these people to put on my squad. I'd pick him. Granted his Jamaica series blew arse. Giant arse.

Findley, has disappeared from Nottingham Forrest. haha.

This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:02 am to
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Edu/Jones/Williams


I think Beckerman is a bit stronger at passing and retaining possession.

He's just limited athletically compared to the guys you listed.

Williams showed out on Tuesday, I think he has a bright future with the US.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 9:06 am
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:09 am to
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Williams showed out on Tuesday, I think he has a bright future with the US.

Deep lying midfielder is his to lose. The only competition I can see would be Edu. But he has a long way to go before that will happen. Imagine a midfield trio of Williams deepest and Bradley and Holden in front of him in a 4-3-3. That is a midfield to be reckoned with.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17251 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:09 am to
Bornstein actually wasn't a huge liability in the World Cup. The fact that he didn't have to face any quality wingers no doubt had something to do with that.

Poor player and I don't have any interest seeing him on the national team, but then again I'm not too thrilled about Castillo either.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:11 am to
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Poor player and I don't have any interest seeing him on the national team, but then again I'm not too thrilled about Castillo either.

You are right Castillo is not that much better than Bornstien. He can go forward much better but that is not saying much.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:14 am to
Bornstein also contributed this fantastic moment.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:19 am to
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Bornstein also contributed this fantastic moment.
Yea is it telling that his biggest contribution was for another country?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:23 am to
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Yea is it telling that his biggest contribution was for another country?



No, but it was an important game for that particular team's psyche, having just lost Charlie Davies a couple of days before. We also lost Gooch that game, and were down to 10 men.
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:24 am to
Heath Pearce >>> Bornstein.

Bornstein played for Bob at chivas USA and he was a bit of a teachers pet (so was Kljestan for that matter). I'd say the main reason he got so many caps is a combination of that and the fact that we are so historically weak at LB.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:26 am to
Davies' car accident was the previous night. Not to mention, that draw clinched our position as the top qualifier in CONCACAF; a largely meaningless title, but always golden to finish ahead of Mexico.
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