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re: Pep Guardiola: Premier League not any different from Bundesliga, La Liga

Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:26 pm to
It blows my mind that people could have watched the Premier League over the last few years and thought that Bayern, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus would not have dominated that league. Just inconceivable to me.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:26 pm to
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Manchester City competed and even beat several of those teams in that span in the UCL so I completely disagree that they would run away with the EPL.



They probably would. Chelsea and Man United have been pretty poor, even that Chelsea team that won the title, which has to be one of the worst title winning teams the EPL has had. Arsenal and Man City would have given them games, but the EPL isn't all that deep, nor is the depth of its technical play all that dazzling. Most EPL teams struggle in possession and can't break down teams at all.
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:28 pm to
You laugh, but the last four years has been pretty substandard in terms of patterns of play, across the league. Chelsea were great for a half a season, then coasted to a title, and then realized what a liability Fabregas was. Man United has been poor for a while, and were utterly terrible under LVG. Arsenal can match teams on the ground but are positionally clueless. Man City struggled with spacing as well as finding a midfield partnership that allowed their creative players to create rather than defend. I think the performances in Europe reflect this as well.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:28 pm to
So this is the narrative? The Bundesliga is actually as competitive as the Prem because Bayern is a super club that would dwarf all other EPL clubs?

Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:30 pm to
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It blows my mind that people could have watched the Premier League over the last few years and thought that Bayern, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus would not have dominated that league. Just inconceivable to me.


It's like no league goes through a down period. It happens and is completely normal. Either you are on the edge of the tactical game or you aren't. The English are behind.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:32 pm to
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The Bundesliga is actually as competitive as the Prem because Bayern is a super club that would dwarf all other EPL clubs?



The pattern of play for mid-table clubs is higher. Germany produces better players in general. It has a better youth system, more interesting tactical arrangements, and emphasizes attacking play. Mid-table teams in the EPL are really bad usually.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:33 pm to
Leicester dominated the Premier League last year and you're going to act like Bayern wouldn't have won the league by 10+ points?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:37 pm to
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Leicester dominated the Premier League last year and you're going to act like Bayern wouldn't have won the league by 10+ points?


I mean they're also 2-0 in the UCL, including a win over Porto. They aren't exactly some shite side.

Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:41 pm to
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I mean they're also 2-0 in the UCL, including a win over Porto. They aren't exactly some shite side.



Yeah they are. They've been terrible this year. They've given up 14 goals in 8 games. They beat fricking Club Brugge in the CL.

The league in general was awful last year. Again, teams in the EPL can't break down the low block, and always struggle in possession. How can people deny this? This is literally why LC won last year with three fricking losses. Because they actively sought to maximize possession by not being drawn out unless it led to a goal scoring opportunity.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 7:58 pm to
Once again, crazy4lsu brings sanity and clarity to this board.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 8:49 pm to
Spain is the best, obviously. Germany and Italy still blow and last year's aberration aside the PL is easily the second best league.
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 8:51 pm to
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You dumb

Oh yea? Well I'm rubber and you're glue and whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!

You might want to put some aloe on yourself cause you just got burned.
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 8:57 pm to
Once again, RandySavage brings sanity and clarity to this board.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:39 pm to
I just don't personally believe that Bayern, Real or Barca would just run rampant and make a mockery out of the EPL. Could they win the league, even multiple years in a row? I mean yeah, obviously but the dominance would be nothing like Bayern's over the last several years. The league was a fricking cake walk for them and they had shite wrapped up by like March.

I'd take the top seven in the EPL over the top seven in the bundesliga any day. Spain I do believe is more top heavy than any other league though.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:41 pm to
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Once again, RandySavage brings sanity and clarity to this board.


Lol the guy who said Dortmund had a shitty transfer strategy this summer?
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:46 pm to
Well the jury is still out on that one. Too early to render an opinion. I never offer an opinion unless I know that is correct beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:52 pm to
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Lol the guy who said Dortmund had a shitty transfer strategy this summer?


I didn't go that far but some edgy hipsters on here were acting like they were having the GOAT window.

Yet here we are 20% through the season and they are behind such giants as Leipzeg, Koln, and Hertha.

They are keeping pace with Hoffenheim though so they have that going for them.
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 9:53 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 9:58 pm to
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I never offer an opinion unless I know that is correct beyond a reasonable doubt.


Well this is incorrect. You agreed that Romo held Dallas back, which literally anyone with any sports knowledge that isn't looking to stir to pot knows is false.

I already know your sports IQ and it's more comparable to Mo Claiborne's wonderlic score.

Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:00 pm to
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some edgy hipsters on here were acting like they were having the GOAT window


They definitely did not have the GOAT window by any means, but they certainly had one of the better ones in Europe.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 10:13 pm to
Results will likely continue to prove otherwise.
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