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crazy4lsu
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Bayern dominated long stretches of the match but where shocking in the final third


Nah they just held the ball a lot without finding any incisive passes. Way too static in terms of interior movement.


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StraightCashHomey21
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This match def showed why the board is going all in spending big on young players

The changing of the guard is about to happen at Bayern


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The whole thing sounds like if Bayern has actually tried they would have gone through. They did try and flat out got beat.



No, it sounds like putting responsibility on Kovac. Bayern have passers from deep that could break the Pool press, but they rarely tried to find balls that would put Pool under pressure. It did somewhat mitigate the counter-press, but Pool were far better in possession and the counter-attack.


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I guess we see what we want to see. Hard for me to see “dominant” out of Bayern when they managed 1 shot on target in each half. There was about 20 minutes in the first half where they passed the ball around the back a lot. Ribery got around Trent a few times, but I wouldn’t describe any stretch of their performance as dominant


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Bayern dominated long stretches of the match but where shocking in the final third


Just cause you have possession doesn’t mean you’re dominating. Would expect even a manc to understand that.


StraightCashHomey21
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That’s the whole shocking in the final third

Their inability to make the final pass after a decent build up was pretty bad



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Just cause you have possession doesn’t mean you’re dominating. Would expect even a manc to understand that.


A trophy dodger should be the last one giving football lessons


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It appears you need them when it pertains to Liverpool. Your incapability to view an LFC game without bias leads you to say shite like “bayern dominated for long stretches” when they did no such thing


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Their inability to make the final pass after a decent build up was pretty bad



They weren't even making passes between the lines in the middle third. They moved the ball around the back a bunch to move Pool up the field and then tried long passes on to the forward line.

It was a pretty poor gameplan overall.


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For fricks sake you guys are impossible to deal with

They had the ball for long periods, good build up and awful in the final third

Once Liverpool went up 2-1 that totally changed


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StraightCashHomey21
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I really expected them to bomb the full backs more while playing at home

Kovac def was one demensional in his tactics


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Yeah I was surprised they didn't do draw Pool to one of the wings and then spring a pass to a fullback. Pool's defensive spacing is so good that it's hard to bend them out of shape. A CB like Hummels can usually play wide, angled balls to one of the full-backs, which would have given those full-backs 1 v 1 opportunities against the opposition full-backs, since Pool's wingers tend to stay high up the field. Instead they wanted to keep a spare man at the back, to make sure they weren't caught-out on the counter, meaning the fullbacks stayed relatively narrow and close to the CB's.

Disappointing, because Kimmich and Alaba are great FB's, and Munich does have passers who could complete those balls. The slow, ponderous build-up doesn't seem to work against Pool either, as their spacing is so good it never feels like a player can be out-numbered. It makes little sense to have such a slow build-up but not attempt to work the middle. Bayern lacked a link player, but James can play that role easily. No clue what Kovac's intent was.


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They had the ball for long periods, good build up


that's the whole point of Klopp's tactics. let them build a sense of security and then rip it out from under them.


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Bayern looked completely content to play square passes amongst the back 4, entirely too afraid to challenge LFC’s press. James was terrible. He’s slow and looks afraid to touch the ball with his right foot, even for something as menial as a short pass.

Hummels looked good, Neuer past it, and Thiago played with a ton of heart. Really seemed the only Bayern player who was all-in. Rafinha was an absolute liability in the back.

Time for the Bavarian overhaul. Hopefully Uli and co focus on guys for Kovac’s system rather than buying the youngest, most promising German without vision for Kovac’s tactics. He’s probably creaming his pants thinking about buying Werner this summer and I really don’t know where he fits
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Kimmich being suspended was pretty big. He's Bayern's second best player behind Thiago.

I would've liked to see Coman playing high to try to pin back one of Liverpool's fullbacks. Lewa's runs were great but they couldn't ever get that consistent link.

Any time Gnabry got the ball in space he killed Robinson. Really weird that Bayern didn't look to exploit those 1v1s more


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re: Match Day 3/13 UCL
Classic SCH analysis

Dominated the game, just got unlucky


StraightCashHomey21
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Yea Kimmich being out was huge

But over the course of two legs Liverpool were the better side

Hopefully a good learning experience in European football for Kovac


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StraightCashHomey21
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I never said Bayern were unlucky

They were utter shite in the final third


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They were utter shite in the final third
Well that I won’t disagree with

Playing away from home it’s no surprise we sat back more. Same thing last year against City and Roma, though nowhere near as solid defensively

We still looked a little vulnerable at times, but also still strangely in control most of the match outside of 2 chances from Lewa I’d say. I thought it was an entertaining back and forth match which is why UCL is so much fun


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The Liverpool midfield still leaves a lot to be desired


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