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re: I'm switching my allegiance in club soccer...
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:44 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:44 pm to BleedPurpleGold
As the resident club hopper, I follow Americans. Fulham for now in the EPL, Bolton and Everton close behind.
It's never a bad idea to find an American you like and join that club's bandwagon.
It's never a bad idea to find an American you like and join that club's bandwagon.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:49 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
The club chooses you. You don't choose the club.
Liverpool fans may drone on an on about their history and what not, but lately they sound like Alabama football fans pre-2009. Arsenal fans at least are aware that nobody wants to hear about 2003 or 1989 anymore.
I doubt that you'll enjoy watching Lucas, Skrtl and N'Gog hoof the ball around for 90 minutes. LFC needs to be imploded and rebuilt.
Liverpool fans may drone on an on about their history and what not, but lately they sound like Alabama football fans pre-2009. Arsenal fans at least are aware that nobody wants to hear about 2003 or 1989 anymore.
I doubt that you'll enjoy watching Lucas, Skrtl and N'Gog hoof the ball around for 90 minutes. LFC needs to be imploded and rebuilt.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:51 pm to thenry712
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The club chooses you. You don't choose the club.
Interesting...
So, is it perhaps that I'm just meant to be latched to United? Or should I continue my search?
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:53 pm to thenry712
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The club chooses you. You don't choose the club.
Liverpool fans may drone on an on about their history and what not, but lately they sound like Alabama football fans pre-2009. Arsenal fans at least are aware that nobody wants to hear about 2003 or 1989 anymore.
I doubt that you'll enjoy watching Lucas, Skrtl and N'Gog hoof the ball around for 90 minutes. LFC needs to be imploded and rebuilt.
so i take it you read none of my post, cause every ounce of that was covered.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:55 pm to BleedPurpleGold
I watch the DVD of that game every couple months and what's so striking is the difference in Milan from the 1st to the 2nd half. In the first half they were unfair. Some of the best soccer you'll ever see. Kaka's pass to release Crespo on the 3rd goal is just nuts.
The 2nd half though, once Gerrard got his goal, they imploded. Just this complete shell for 13 mins. You could easily write sports psychology books on it.
Dudek's saves are still two of the most insane things you can witness, considering what was on the line at that point.
The 2nd half though, once Gerrard got his goal, they imploded. Just this complete shell for 13 mins. You could easily write sports psychology books on it.
Dudek's saves are still two of the most insane things you can witness, considering what was on the line at that point.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:00 pm to LfcSU3520
Oh yeah, Kaka's through ball to Crespo was class...
That being said, I want to see more of this... Gerrard - Torres link up
That being said, I want to see more of this... Gerrard - Torres link up
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:05 pm to LfcSU3520
I read it but comments like
that irk me. What about Madrid, Milan, Manchester United, and Barcelona? Those are teams to beat in the Champions League now. For their history and their current sides. Granted Madrid haven't done shite in the knockout rounds in years, they'll make it past round one with Mourinho this year.
The mystique of Liverpool being a club composed of working class passionate supporters is quite inaccurate. You'll find the LFC crest on thousands of English and internationals around the world who don't have that live and die attitude about their club If your looking for the traditional working class team with a live and die mindset, it's somewhere in the Midlands or in the working class London neighborhoods.
And blaming Hodgson for playing unattractive football is not entirely fair to Roy. He was given chicken shite and has to make a chicken salad. If you told Arsene Wenger, or any other attack minded manager, to freely take any number of LFC players, he might only select Kuyt, Gerrard and possibly Torres (in his current state). It's not a good team and they have to resort to traditional English hoof and run tactics.
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(because let's face it, when we're in Europe, we're always the team to beat).
that irk me. What about Madrid, Milan, Manchester United, and Barcelona? Those are teams to beat in the Champions League now. For their history and their current sides. Granted Madrid haven't done shite in the knockout rounds in years, they'll make it past round one with Mourinho this year.
The mystique of Liverpool being a club composed of working class passionate supporters is quite inaccurate. You'll find the LFC crest on thousands of English and internationals around the world who don't have that live and die attitude about their club If your looking for the traditional working class team with a live and die mindset, it's somewhere in the Midlands or in the working class London neighborhoods.
And blaming Hodgson for playing unattractive football is not entirely fair to Roy. He was given chicken shite and has to make a chicken salad. If you told Arsene Wenger, or any other attack minded manager, to freely take any number of LFC players, he might only select Kuyt, Gerrard and possibly Torres (in his current state). It's not a good team and they have to resort to traditional English hoof and run tactics.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:07 pm to thenry712
Wenger would snap up Reina in a heartbeat...prob before any of the others...
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:09 pm to TFTC
Nah he just prefers shitty Polish keepers with bad haircuts and the tendency to indecisively slap at incoming crosses.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:13 pm to thenry712
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The mystique of Liverpool being a club composed of working class passionate supporters is quite inaccurate. You'll find the LFC crest on thousands of English and internationals around the world who don't have that live and die attitude about their club
That's not what I was getting at. The people who call Liverpool home, live in the city, and go to games every weekend are much different than the same for United, Chelsea, and Arsenal. I've been to both Old Trafford and Stanford Bridge and I saw countless people golf clapping, reading books, socializing. The passion just isn't the same. I go to Anfield yearly and its a whole different ballpark. The passion is culpable and you feel like you can reach out and touch it. I was in no way drawn to Liverpool by some fan in some foreign country and their outlook on the team. I'm talking specifically about the people that sit their butts in the seat and see the games live. Those are on a whole different level than their counterparts in upper class London and Manchester and those are the fans I was referring to.
Edit: One of the previous poster put up a link to the north stand singing YNWA in unison after being 3 down and all hope being lost. There's no way you can tell me that Arsenal/United/Chelsea fans would ever show that kind of support in that situation. They'd be heading for the exits.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:36 pm to LfcSU3520
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what's so striking is the difference in Milan from the 1st to the 2nd half.
One could argue the difference was Hamann's presence in the game. I don't know why he wasn't started from the beginning.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:49 pm to puffulufogous
Newcastle.
I'm not a fan, but for some reason the EPL feels "complete" when Newcastle is there.
I'm not a fan, but for some reason the EPL feels "complete" when Newcastle is there.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 4:56 pm to Sheep
Newcastle would be a good club to follow. They have their ups and downs and extremely passionate (read fat) and working class (read fat) fan base.
Plus despite looking like the ugliest woman alive, Andrew Carroll is going to be a great player for England.
Oh and Joey Barton.
Plus despite looking like the ugliest woman alive, Andrew Carroll is going to be a great player for England.
Oh and Joey Barton.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 5:12 pm to Sheep
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I'm not a fan, but for some reason the EPL feels "complete" when Newcastle is there.
they filled the laughingstock role nicely last time...
i'm thinking we could lose wigan, west brom, and fulham and not lose much now
what's phil brown up to nowadays?
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/2/11 at 5:19 pm to chalmetteowl
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wigan, west brom, and fulham
All three of these teams are infinitely better than the longball merchants. Wigan and West Brom actually like to play.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 5:28 pm to thenry712
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that irk me. What about Madrid, Milan, Manchester United, and Barcelona?
what about them? Only one of them has more European cups than Liverpool so what's the argument here. And if you're basing this off this year then fine, but that's shorsighted and completely missing my point.
Madrid for some reason can't make it out of the first knockout round anymore. Liverpool has been to two finals in the last 5 years, while being mostly a shite side domestically. Which is my point. In Europe, you don't ever discount them.
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The mystique of Liverpool being a club composed of working class passionate supporters is quite inaccurate. You'll find the LFC crest on thousands of English and internationals around the world who don't have that live and die attitude about their club If your looking for the traditional working class team with a live and die mindset, it's somewhere in the Midlands or in the working class London neighborhoods
this is all fine and good, but it wasn't brought up in this thread. I didn't try to sell that aspect because it doesn't apply to me. And saying that because there's people in Asia who wear Liverpool garb but don't cry at losses really does nothing to discredit how passionate their true supporters really are. ManU has become an international club but it's not like I'd sit here and act as if they didn't have a passionate true fanbase.
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And blaming Hodgson for playing unattractive football is not entirely fair to Roy. He was given chicken shite and has to make a chicken salad
bullshite. Absolute bullshite. Against Wolves he played 13 fricking internationally capped players. That's absurd to have that pedigree on the field and to have a performance like that. They don't have Barca's or Chelsea's squad, but to act like he has nothing to work with is off the mark. Almost this same team finished with 86 pts in the league two years ago.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 5:40 pm to LfcSU3520
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Liverpool has been to two finals in the last 5 years, while being mostly a shite side domestically. Which is my point. In Europe, you don't ever discount them.
But that was mostly a function of having Benetiz, whose sides always were better suited to the continental game. I'm not sure you can say the same for Hodgson at the moment, even with his great run in the Europa League last year.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 5:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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But that was mostly a function of having Benetiz, whose sides always were better suited to the continental game. I'm not sure you can say the same for Hodgson at the moment, even with his great run in the Europa League last year.
I don't care what you attribute it to, it doesn't make it false. Also, that reputation predates Rafa by 30 years, but I see your point.
And about the only thing going for Woy right now, is that he's still alive in Europe but not holding my breath on that one.
Posted on 1/2/11 at 6:04 pm to LfcSU3520
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I don't care what you attribute it to, it doesn't make it false.
I wasn't saying it was false, simply pointing out the disparity between Benetiz's domestic sides and his continental sides.
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Also, that reputation predates Rafa by 30 years
Of course, everyone should admit 'Pool is a side that always looks forward to continental competition. And going by number of cups, 'Pool is the most successful English side in Europe this decade with four Cups (CL, UEFA CUP, and 2 super cups).
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