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re: Handball practically in the goal

Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
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Haha jesus, excuse after excuse


Not an excuse. Your analogy blew. You compared a ball ALREADY ON ITS WAY TO GOAL to a guy being fouled before ever getting a shot off.

Ridiculous.
Posted by DonChulio
Member since May 2010
386 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:49 pm to
Well alright I give up then. I feel as if the examples I made justified what happened pretty well, but if there is no getting through your thick skulls then there's no reason to bother then is there?


With that being said, GTFO of the world cup board if you are so close minded.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10591 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

The quarterback throws it in the endzone with 1 second left and the cornerback tackles the WR. Clear pass interference. They get the ball at the one and they can stuff it in the endzone.


Not in college. Only 15 yards.

It's poor sportsmanship, pure and simple. It's saying "I value winning more than the rules, my personal honor, and the integrity of the game."
But typical in general for society today and, judging by the other threads, soccer fans in particular.

As far as popularity, been to an MLS game lately? At least one country is smart enough to see through the charade.
This post was edited on 7/2/10 at 8:02 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:53 pm to
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It's ridiculous. shite. If that's the rule, then defenders should handball EVERYTHING that is on goal that the keeper can't get.


Yeah then play the rest of the game with no defenders. Some people here are so stupid.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:53 pm to
quote:


Well alright I give up then. I feel as if the examples I made justified what happened pretty well


You think a comparison of a shot that hasn't even been taken to a shot that is almost in the goal was solid and you are saying my skull is thick?

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

Yeah then play the rest of the game with no defenders. Some people here are so stupid.



I already addressed this with a later post that said do so in the final minutes.

Would rather play with a man down for the final 5 minutes or so than down goal.

Is that even arguable?
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:55 pm to
A team is forced to forfeit if down to 7 men, so it seems like a great idea to intentionally handball everything going into the goal.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36518 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:56 pm to
sports do not fricking translate to each other. they are different. illegally saving the goal with your hands in soccer is like illegally saving the goal with your hands in fricking soccer.

you don't need to relate it to another sport. it is not another sport. it is its own sport.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:56 pm to
When Shaq is fouled under the basket, should they just give him the points? He was going to make it anyway right?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10591 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Yeah then play the rest of the game with no defenders. Some people here are so stupid.


Except in this case there was no "rest of the game." Dude didn't get to take PK's, (which obviously they didn't miss) wouldn't have made a difference in the arse-raping they're about to get from the Netherlands, and gets to play in the 3rd place game. Winner all around. Rewarded for deliberately breaking the rules.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10591 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 7:58 pm to
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When Shaq is fouled under the basket, should they just give him the points? He was going to make it anyway right?


No, but if the ball is halfway down the cylinder and you knock it back out, the points still count.

But that's because basketball was invented in America.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:00 pm to
People deliberately break the rules in every sport. He has to pay the price, he can't play next game and there was a 90% chance Gyan would make it. He was just trying to do anything he can to help his team. Everyone else would do the same thing.
Posted by DonChulio
Member since May 2010
386 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:00 pm to
I actually bought a ticket to twilight last night and went and saw the movie. It was sooo stupid I don't understand how people like it. So when I got home i went on the twilight message boards to tell everyone they're ****s and the twilight series blows.


Or does this analogy blow too?
Posted by ThePlumber
NOLA
Member since Jul 2005
970 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

When Shaq is fouled under the basket, should they just give him the points? He was going to make it anyway right?

What the hell are you talking about? No
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

When Shaq is fouled under the basket, should they just give him the points? He was going to make it anyway right?




For chrissakes. These people are delusional. How else to explain analogy's about B'ball players being fouled before they every get the shot off.

I mean frick, both games have nets. There is an OBVIOUS analogy. IE, if the ball is already on its way in the goal, you can't knock it the frick back out.

The player wasn't fouled. The fricking ball was on its way into the goal!!!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

90% chance Gyan would make it. He was just trying to do anything he can to help his team.


I'll take 90% chance of losing over 100% chance of losing EVERY DAMNED TIME.,
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:03 pm to
If he's under the basket alone he'd dunk it in and make it 99% of the time. So if a defender grabs him and intentionally fouls him, he should just get the points. CHEATERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED!
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17215 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

When Shaq is fouled under the basket, should they just give him the points? He was going to make it anyway right?


What?

I would be fine if they made it so the goal counted. Its a bit absurd to make them take a PK (people act like its so easy when its not) after a goal is stolen from them.

That said Suarez just did what everyone else would do. And plus it was just an instinct move.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

So if a defender grabs him and intentionally fouls him, he should just get the points. CHEATERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED!


You are aware that if he gets the shot off and it's halfway in the basket and the defender knocks it out, he DOES get the points, right?

THAT is the comparison.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 7/2/10 at 8:04 pm to
People make pks at about a 90% rate. That's almost a sure thing. I'm being ridiculous because everyone who thinks the goal should be given is ridiculous.
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