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Posted on 2/8/20 at 11:21 am to I Bleed Garnet
Texas was annexed in 1836 bub
Posted on 2/8/20 at 11:33 am to MF Doom
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Texas was annexed in 1836 bub
Awesome
Not sure why that matters that you were born in Mexico City in 1993
Posted on 2/8/20 at 11:39 am to I Bleed Garnet
Yes some people may call Houston Mexico City because of all the immigrants but it is still in Texas which is a part of the usa
Posted on 2/8/20 at 11:55 am to Bawcephus
Real talk... LSU basketball traditionally stands in a line with there arms around each others shoulders for the anthem, are they all being anti-American too?
Also your commander in chief was spotted cracking jokes, pointing at people and pretend conducting during the Super Bowl, so what about him?
Also your commander in chief was spotted cracking jokes, pointing at people and pretend conducting during the Super Bowl, so what about him?
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:13 pm to MF Doom
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Yes some people may call Houston Mexico City because of all the immigrants but it is still in Texas which is a part of the usa
You weren’t born in Texas
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:17 pm to I Bleed Garnet
You weren't born in South carolina
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:33 pm to Bawcephus
Why the hell would you watch women's soccer on a Friday night? Why the hell would you watch women's soccer anyways?
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:40 pm to DByrd2
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Inconsequential. 1st Amendment.
The U.S. Soccer Federation is an independent 501(c)(3) non-profit, *not* the government.
The 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee any person the "right" to speak as a representative of a private, non-government entity. It just doesn't.
If a person works for Microsoft, Microsoft has a perfect right to fire an employee/contractor that is a loud and public proponent of Apple. There are no 1st Amendment protections violated there.
Also, if your viewpoint were accurate, then I could bring my handgun to work (or *anywhere* for that matter) anytime I wanted whether or not my employer wants me to or not because, gosh, 2nd Amendment!
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:02 pm to beatbammer
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The 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee any person the "right" to speak as a representative of a private, non-government entity. It just doesn't.
They are making a decision to make their stand. The 1st Amendment absolutely guaranteed EVERYONE to speak. The consequences of their decisions are what the 1st Amendment doesn’t cover. You literally couldn’t make a worse argument on this here.
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Also, if your viewpoint were accurate, then I could bring my handgun to work (or *anywhere* for that matter) anytime I wanted whether or not my employer wants me to or not because, gosh, 2nd Amendment!
Non-sequitur.
The 2nd Amendment absolutely gives us that right. We, as a citizenry, have been lazy in holding our representatives accountable.
Completely separate issue. Are you sure you want to have this argument, bud? I like you as a poster, but the fake outrage is bullshite.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:18 pm to DByrd2
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Are you sure you want to have this argument, bud? I like you as a poster, but the fake outrage is bullshite.
I like you as well, but its just a fact that 1st Amendment "protections" do not apply to private and non-governmental entities. They just don't.
If you work for a Catholic diocese and have a mid-life conversion to atheism and decide to be a notable and publicly outspoken convert, the 1st Amendment does *not* protect you from being fired by the diocese for your public speech.
It does, indeed, protect your right to SAY WHAT YOU WANT, of course. But it does *not* protect you from every possible consequence of your usage of that right. Period.
I mean, you have the perfect RIGHT to walk into your bosses office and call him a cock-sucker, but you ARE very, very likely going to be fired after you do it.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:47 pm to Bawcephus
Are you fricking her?
Way to go.
And we thought she was lesbian.
Way to go.
And we thought she was lesbian.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:12 pm to MF Doom
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You weren't born in South carolina
You’re right I wasn’t
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:17 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Go back to canada
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:35 pm to beatbammer
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If you work for a Catholic diocese and have a mid-life conversion to atheism and decide to be a notable and publicly outspoken convert, the 1st Amendment does *not* protect you from being fired by the diocese for your public speech.
It does, indeed, protect your right to SAY WHAT YOU WANT, of course. But it does *not* protect you from every possible consequence of your usage of that right. Period.
I mean, you have the perfect RIGHT to walk into your bosses office and call him a cock-sucker, but you ARE very, very likely going to be fired after you do it.
This is my entire argument. She has the right to do it. The org has the right to swap up and say “if you do this you’re fired”. Ball is in her court.
She is in the organization, but that doesn’t limit her right outlined in the 1st A. This discussion is about individuals carrying out that right, not whether or not the USSF supports her commentary.
In this case, she is not at threat of being fired. They told her not to kneel, now she doesn’t cover her heart because she values her job/role in the WNT.
The only situation that the angle you are coming from is right is in the case of the military (possibly police too, but I don’t know about that realm). We can’t protest on partisan political issues, and generally have to seek permission and counsel to be allowed to participate in ANY protest.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:42 pm to DByrd2
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This is my entire argument. She has the right to do it. The org has the right to swap up and say “if you do this you’re fired”. Ball is in her court.
She is in the organization, but that doesn’t limit her right outlined in the 1st A. This discussion is about individuals carrying out that right, not whether or not the USSF supports her commentary.
In this case, she is not at threat of being fired. They told her not to kneel, now she doesn’t cover her heart because she values her job/role in the WNT.
The only situation that the angle you are coming from is right is in the case of the military (possibly police too, but I don’t know about that realm). We can’t protest on partisan political issues, and generally have to seek permission and counsel to be allowed to participate in ANY protest.
Then we 100% agree.
Most of the "but she has a 1st Amendment right!" proclaimers, however, believe that not only does she have the right, but she is due automatic and full protection from any consequence or responsibility from her use of that right. And that's what I thought you were saying. Glad to hear I was incorrect.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:01 pm to MF Doom
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Lol she doesn't even crack the top 1000
Of women soccer players?
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:07 pm to Bawcephus
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a melt when a NATIONAL TEAM player doesn't even have the decency to show respect?
Why don’t you go down there and make her
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:19 pm to jordan21210
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Seriously mind blowing that so many people allow stuff like this to get them flustered.
Well when you literally have nothing going on to get angry at, your selected news outlets should do the trick
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:38 pm to crazy4lsu
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Of women soccer players?
Of all soccer players. Why should I be impressed that she’s a woman?
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