re: Champions League Semi-Final 2nd leg: Liverpool @ Roma - 1:45 ct FS1

I see what you did. You predicted a 3-1 game in the CL final and a 3-1 Portugal over Egypt win in the WC final. Just playing chess while we are playing checkers.

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As a Liverpool supporter I haven't been this excited or confident in the future since I began watching them in 2004

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I guess the ownership was the glaring cloud but the 2008 semi final team was insane.

Shocking they could never do more in the league but Chelsea and Man U were peak as well.

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If they come out like Mourinho did against us, my un biased gut would say 2-0 or 2-1

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They don’t have the players to play that way imo. I think a 4-3 loss is more likely than 2-0 or 2-1. Navas is good but he’s no DDG. Marcelo is good but he doesn’t like defending and can’t run like Valencia. The defensive work rate isn’t there because it’s an attacking side. Mourinho has instilled parking the bus in big games his entire career. He knows what to do against a side that wants to attack. Think real has too much hubris to play that way.

Getting CR7 isolated on Lovren and just bombing it up to him is admittedly concerning. I dont think they can handle our pace and tenacity offensively. We’re better at it than Tottenham and they outclassed Madrid. Don’t think their back line is going to like having Bobby breathing down their neck all night either. We saw it from good players against city and Roma, panic creeps in and they give the ball away for what’s essentially a cheap goal.

At the end of the day this is Real Madrid we’re talking about. Ronaldo is still Ronaldo. They could conceivably blast Liverpool. That said, I think and wholeheartedly believe that Liverpool is a better soccer team today and has been all year. When they’re on it they can’t be played with. 5-1 aggregate over City should’ve erased all doubts from anyone that this side can beat anyone senseless. Klopp has found a group that plays the way he wants them to play and a few guys that can do that while fricking flying. If Real wants to get out and play pretty football and attack Liverpool because they’re Real Madrid then they’ll be down 3-0 before Ramos even sees a yellow. They don’t have the defensive wherewithal as a unit to keep up with the pace and tenacity they’ll see from Liverpool. I can’t wait

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Mourinho has instilled parking the bus in big games his entire career. He knows what to do against a side that wants to attack

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that's not true

i guess you didn't watch Porto Jose, first stint at Chelsea Jose, or Madrid Jose.

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Getting CR7 isolated on Lovren and just bombing it up to him is admittedly concerning. I dont think they can handle our pace and tenacity offensively. We’re better at it than Tottenham and they outclassed Madrid. Don’t think their back line is going to like having Bobby breathing down their neck all night either. We saw it from good players against city and Roma, panic creeps in and they give the ball away for what’s essentially a cheap goal.

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Madrid were in awful form when they played spurs. Their midfield is going to eat yours alive. I think Klopp will not try and play through the middle but instead focus on using the pace on the wings to create chances .

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At the end of the day this is Real Madrid we’re talking about. Ronaldo is still Ronaldo. They could conceivably blast Liverpool. That said, I think and wholeheartedly believe that Liverpool is a better soccer team today and has been all year. When they’re on it they can’t be played with. 5-1 aggregate over City should’ve erased all doubts from anyone that this side can beat anyone senseless. Klopp has found a group that plays the way he wants them to play and a few guys that can do that while fricking flying. If Real wants to get out and play pretty football and attack Liverpool because they’re Real Madrid then they’ll be down 3-0 before Ramos even sees a yellow. They don’t have the defensive wherewithal as a unit to keep up with the pace and tenacity they’ll see from Liverpool. I can’t wait

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whoa there pump the breaks

you beat City bc you match up well with them and Pep went full retard with his tactics in the first leg. Pep for some reason goes full retard in the knockout rounds.

At the end of the day its a one off match and anything can happen. Madrid has the arguably the best player in the world and the experience in this competition.

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VVD has made a difference but defensively Liverpool still look all over the place at times

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I don't think they were as bad yesterday as people are making it out to be.

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I don't think they were as bad yesterday as people are making it out to be.

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Best of luck to them. Silva and De Bruyne are two of the best on the planet and they couldn’t

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Completely different type of midfield players to what Madrid will roll out there. You also wont have OX who was a major factor out there.

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And we don’t match up well with Madrid?

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They are better than you in all areas of the pitch other than attack.

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He’s widely regarded as the best manager in the world. They tried to pack it in and limit our possession and got whipped. They did that because they tried playing pretty football at Anfield in January and got whipped. It’s hard to simulate gegenpressing to the degree that Liverpool can execute it.

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And he has also gone full retard in the knockout stages multiple times with his tactics. Often going away from what got him there. His away record in the knockout stages is bad.

Once again its a one off match and anything can happen. Madrid are the favorites but Liverpool can definitely win with that attack.

Its wild the 3rd place team in Spain vs the 3rd maybe 4th at the end of day team in England in the Champions League final.

Its a testament to how much improved the EPL is the last year.

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Because they aren’t that good defensively anymore. Bound to happen with aging legs and fullbacks that only want to run forward.

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I think its bc they take way to many risk and probably just don't listen to Zizzou

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You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, fact remains that Liverpool have conceded fewer goals in the league and in the champions league (while netting 10 more). For a side with a better midfield, back 4, and keeper, it’s peculiar that the other team has a better defense. You do you though.

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In the champions league you can look at the quality of opposition in the groups and the knockout stages as to why Madrid has given up more goals. They have played Spurs, Dortmund, PSG, Bayer, and Juve all which look great going forward. Liverpool on the other hand the only real threat going forward they faced was City. In the league both have given up 37 goals and Madrid have scored 2 more goals in the league, so not sure where you are getting your stats from.

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In the league both have given up 37 goals and Madrid have scored 2 more goals in the league, so not sure where you are getting your stats from.

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37 in two fewer games.

You can leave Dortmund out of the look great going forward camp. They were toothless at that point in the season and couldn’t beat a Cypriot side to stay alive. Yea they played better attacking sides on the whole but surrendered multiple goals to all of them. They were being beat physically by a 35 year old French winger. They just aren’t very good defensively this year. People get sucked into the reputation and don’t believe what their eyes are telling them