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Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:35 am to GeauxColonels
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But to try and sum it up, the Champions League is the penultimate league to play in.
Going to be a grammar Nazi here. Unless you mean the second-to -last league to play in, penultimate is used incorrectly here. Preeminent would be a better choice.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 10:02 am to Gmorgan4982
quote:
if you dig far enough
Google first row sports.eu
Posted on 7/6/13 at 10:44 am to McVick
I noticed that as well. I think he meant ultimate.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:32 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Maybe he meant the WC is a the ultimate league?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:12 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Ok got another question here. I plan on catching an ADO Den Haag match when I visit The Hague next week so I've been trying to follow what they're up to. Went to their site and it said the Dutch football association made a draw for some cup and ADO was chosen to the 2nd round. Is this assiocation different from Eredivisie or are they the same entity? How were the draws determined? It sounds like ADO just arbitrarily got put in the 2nd round? Is this how most domestic leagues work or are they all unique?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:19 pm to BleedPurpleGold
I only read like the first three lines of the post, but I thought he was saying UCL = ultimate club competition.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 10:49 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:The Dutch football association is the governing body that is over the leagues and the national team and the domestic cups.
Dutch football association made a draw for some cup and ADO was chosen to the 2nd round. Is this assiocation different from Eredivisie or are they the same entity?
quote:I dunno. I imagine it's a domestic cup. If so, each country does theirs differently. Domestic league competitions are separate from domestic cup competitions, like the English Premier League is different than the FA Cup.
How were the draws determined?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 11:41 pm to mt1
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Google first row sports.eu
I also sometimes use coolsport .tv / kiwisportz .tv . They both redirect to the same website. Usually there are only a couple of links for each game but it says the language of the broadcast to the side and the streams are never really bad quality like they can be on first row.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 7/7/13 at 6:44 am to Sheep
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LOL no.
Any *official* match date, and they have to release him. That doesn't prevent them from telling the player to say that they've got an injury and can't go.
It's a little grey around friendly matches that fall on *official* FIFA dates.... but a qualifier or something like the Gold Cup, the club doesn't get a say in the matter (as far as the federation is concerned.) They may have influence over the player.
Thanks for saying it so I didn't have to.
A few years ago, Claude Makélélé retired from international football but continued playing for Chelsea. Raymond Domenech pretty much forced him out of retirement, and there wasn't much he or the club could do.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 6:45 am to theGarnetWay
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How do you guys follow your favorite foreign team? Does it just depend on what TV service you provide? Do you get it online somewhere? I'm sure the powerhouses are easier to access but I'm sure there are some here that are fans of some of the more obscure teams that aren't so easily seen here in the US?
I generally try to root for my favorite players and prominent Americans. I'm a Roma fan right now because of Michael Bradley.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 6:50 am to ohiovol
It's not accurate to say Makelele was forced by Domenech, as Zidane and Thuram were persuaded to come out of retirement at the same time. Makelele could have still refused.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 7:01 am to crazy4lsu
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It's not accurate to say Makelele was forced by Domenech, as Zidane and Thuram were persuaded to come out of retirement at the same time. Makelele could have still refused.
I'm pretty sure Makelele would have had to miss games for Chelsea if he didn't accept the call up. I just looked it up, but I may have read it wrong.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 7:02 am to ohiovol
Link? That doesn't seem accurate at all.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 7:16 am to crazy4lsu
LINK
I should have continued reading the rest of the article.
It says a player can retire from international football and still play for the club, but for some reason Makelele could not? It seems like he didn't announce his decision in time? To be honest, I don't really understand it.
In any case, it stands to support the argument that international call ups take precedence over clubs.
I should have continued reading the rest of the article.
It says a player can retire from international football and still play for the club, but for some reason Makelele could not? It seems like he didn't announce his decision in time? To be honest, I don't really understand it.
In any case, it stands to support the argument that international call ups take precedence over clubs.
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 7:22 am
Posted on 7/7/13 at 7:28 am to ohiovol
I don't know about the precedence argument, but it seems like it was a personal issue between Domenech and Makelele, as in Makelele not being clear on his retirement. I know of no other case where a player was forced to miss domestic games for refusing a international call up. There have been some high profile refusals as well, none of which resulted in domestic suspensions.
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 8:48 am
Posted on 7/7/13 at 7:41 am to crazy4lsu
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I don't know about the precedence argument, but it seems like it was a personal issue between Domenech and Makelele, as in Makelele not being clear on his retirement. I know of no other case where a player was forced to miss domestic games for refusing a international call up. There have been some high profile refusals as well, none which of which resulted in domestic suspensions.
True, and it would be silly if that were the rule. But it seems like in this situation, for whatever reason, Makelele's hands were tied.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 10:27 pm to ohiovol
It sounds like you've got it pretty well understood, but how about this?
FIFA: Federation Internationale Football Association (International Federation of Association Football) the international governing body of all of soccer.
Then there are the continental/regional "Confederations" made up of all the nations in the different areas of the world. The international champions of each Confederation participate in the Confederations' Cup every four years, one year prior to the World Cup.
UEFA = all the European nations
CONMEBOL = all the South American nations
CONCACAF = all the nations in North America, Central America and the Caribbean
I forget the Asian Confederation's designation, as I do the African, and Oceania. Australia is now part of the Asian confederation.
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At the national level there is a national federation or football association:
The easiest to explain are: the U.S.S.F. here in the United States or the F.A. in England. These oversee ALL football in the stated nation.
Most countries also have a football league with various levels of play.
Each level of each league plays a season-long schedule, team with most points wins the Championship and gets promoted up one level. If they're already top-flight, they make the Champions' League of their Confederation.
During the season, there are the Confederation Champions' League, as well as domestic cup competitions. These are knockout tournaments played during the season.
Again, in England, there's the F.A. Cup, the world's oldest knockout-tournament, and encompassing every team recognized by the F.A.
Then there's the league cup...now named for whatever sponsor pays the fees for the rights....which is a similar tournament, but limited to the clubs in the four levels of the Football League (the top four levels.)
I hope this helps and isn't too confusing.
FIFA: Federation Internationale Football Association (International Federation of Association Football) the international governing body of all of soccer.
Then there are the continental/regional "Confederations" made up of all the nations in the different areas of the world. The international champions of each Confederation participate in the Confederations' Cup every four years, one year prior to the World Cup.
UEFA = all the European nations
CONMEBOL = all the South American nations
CONCACAF = all the nations in North America, Central America and the Caribbean
I forget the Asian Confederation's designation, as I do the African, and Oceania. Australia is now part of the Asian confederation.
----------------------------------------------
At the national level there is a national federation or football association:
The easiest to explain are: the U.S.S.F. here in the United States or the F.A. in England. These oversee ALL football in the stated nation.
Most countries also have a football league with various levels of play.
Each level of each league plays a season-long schedule, team with most points wins the Championship and gets promoted up one level. If they're already top-flight, they make the Champions' League of their Confederation.
During the season, there are the Confederation Champions' League, as well as domestic cup competitions. These are knockout tournaments played during the season.
Again, in England, there's the F.A. Cup, the world's oldest knockout-tournament, and encompassing every team recognized by the F.A.
Then there's the league cup...now named for whatever sponsor pays the fees for the rights....which is a similar tournament, but limited to the clubs in the four levels of the Football League (the top four levels.)
I hope this helps and isn't too confusing.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 10:32 pm to RedPop4
I'm starting to understand it. Looking at the results for the Eredivisie it shows what finish leads to either the Champions League or the Europea League. It also shows how one team that didn't finish high enough was able to get in the Europea league for winning the Dutch Cup.
So its all coming together.. sort of. About who goes where for what finish.
So its all coming together.. sort of. About who goes where for what finish.
Posted on 7/7/13 at 11:02 pm to RedPop4
quote:It's the Capital One Cup (or at least it has been for two years now) and I would say that hardly anyone takes this cup too seriously ... until they get to the semifinals or finals.
Then there's the league cup...now named for whatever sponsor pays the fees for the rights....which is a similar tournament, but limited to the clubs in the four levels of the Football League (the top four levels.)
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