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Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:00 am to
True. I was rather annoyed you didn't even read the rumor you posted. I probably could have voiced my response in a less a-hole manner.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29612 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:17 am to
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True. I was rather annoyed you didn't even read the rumor you posted. I probably could have voiced my response in a less a-hole manner.


I love you guys.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:26 am to
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I probably could have voiced my response in a less a-hole manner.
No worries. We are all Arsenal and are gonna disagree from time to time but in the end we all get along and support the Gooners.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:31 am to
Selling Walcott would be a massive mistake. Especially considering our offensive woes. Gnabry isn't ready to shoulder that load. Theo should be starting for us. Hopefully Wenger quits shutting him out when he returns from injury. We need an offensive spark.

Gervinho is starting up top today. Coquelin in, Ramsey on the right.



Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:51 am to
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Selling Walcott would be a massive mistake.
Only if we don't replace him.

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Gnabry isn't ready to shoulder that load. Theo should be starting for us.
Gnabry isn't ready. You are right. I think Ox when healthy should start unless Theo can force his way into the team when he gets healthy.

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Gervinho is starting up top today. Coquelin in, Ramsey on the right.


Super conservative but maybe Gervinho can come to life today.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118205 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:00 am to
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Only if we don't replace him.


With what player?

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I think Ox when healthy should start unless Theo can force his way into the team when he gets healthy.


Arsenal are more productive when Theo plays. Ox is still in the "promising stage" for me.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:01 am to
The only reason The Ox should start over Theo at the moment is defensive or contract related. Theo is still better right now. Especially with Sagna coming back, he and Theo's fruitful partnership on the right should get the nod again.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:02 am to
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Only if we don't replace him.



With what player?
I dunno but if he doesn't sign by January he can start negotiating with Juve.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118205 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:04 am to
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contract related.


That is a terrible reason.

Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:10 am to
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That is a terrible reason.
Yea I agree. Theo's lack of defensive responsibility would also need to change if he were to become our starter but I agree with both of yall he has looked sharp for the most part this season. Plus maybe he is motivated to prove Wenger wrong and that could be an asset for Wally.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 8:19 am to
Theo is only better with sagna, or against teams that play open (or are behind and thus are forced to play openly)

They're situational, honestly I don't like gervinho or theo's chances of contributing anything against bunkering teams
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29612 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:07 am to
Theo's not very good against teams that pack back and defend. I feel like ox is better against teams like that.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:15 am to
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Theo's not very good against teams that pack back and defend. I feel like ox is better against teams like that.

This
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:38 am to
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Arsenal's not very good against teams that pack back and defend.


ftfy
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:40 am to
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Nobody is very good against teams that pack back and defend.


fify
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 9:48 am to
This.

The Ox hasn't shown any ability to break down a team that's packing the box. Theo at least has had some success at various times. Glasser is right. The Ox is still for the future. Hasn't given us enough finished product to justify his enormous hype, yet. We've seen flashes to be sure, I just think many arsenal fans have an unreasonable view of his contributions so far.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:31 am to
You may be right, and that I only tend to remember other teams that win against a bunker defense vs. watching Arsenal week-in-and-week-out and our struggle to over come that type of opposition. There may be some sort of cognitive bias where I only process teams that break down 11 men behind the ball and compare them to our frequent inability to do so. Just seems like we get the short end of the stick more often than not
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:51 am to
I mean, Barcelona needed a 90th minute stoppage time winner to beat Celtic..
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:01 am to
for some reason the "most recent" last gasp winner I can recall is Cesc's header against Sunderland about 3 seasons back. any other gunnertards remember another stoppage time winner after that...?
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